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[Chron] Rockets' Taylor has green light

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MrRolo, Oct 26, 2004.

  1. nyquil82

    nyquil82 Member

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    interesting tactic, could be jvg throwing off opponents saying he has a weapon that doesn't exist or maybe just boosting mo's value to get an actual 3pt shooter. Even if true, we really need to improve our offensive rebounding and sadly, bowen is our best guy at that, ive seen so far.
     
  2. meh

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    The comparison to Eddie and Kenny, IMO, is unwarranted. If you just watch all three shoot the jumper, it's obvious that Mo has the best stroke among them. If anyone can hit the 3 reliably, it should be Mo.

    I was reading a bit of the Pro Basketball Forcast the other day, and the author wrote how the worst shot in the NBA is the 20 ft jumper. Since it's the lowest percentage shot that doesn't get you the extra bonus point. Mo Taylor immediately came to my mind when I read it. I've always wondered why the guy never tried to step back 2 extra feet and shoot 3s instead.
     
  3. bigben69

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    I dont know how well this will work but if it does it would be nice. It would spread out the floor a little more and give other teams one more thing to worry about. IF it works.
     
  4. gucci888

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    I agree. MoT was pretty unstoppable with that hook shot a season or two ago. Plus, it is a much higher percentage shot and how can he improve his rebounding if he is not even close to the basket?
     
  5. Gutter Snipe

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    The point is to spread the floor. We know that Mo can make that shot, and he probably will when he is the #1 option off of the bench. While MoT is a really good scoring option in the post, he doesn't really pass out of it like TMac or Yao does. Therefore, if they are in the game, they would have priority for that play over him.

    From what I saw last year, MoT was unstoppable down low until opposing coaches double-teamed him, and then he started turning the ball over. It's also a function of matchups, obviously. MoT might be able to take advantage of Chris Webber, but not Duncan or Garnett. In that case, JVG would want Yao or TMac in the post, while our 3pt shooters(including MoT) spread the floor and make the defense have to give up single post or an open 3 point shot.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    As Rockets, Griffin shot 33.55% from 3-point range. Kenny Thomas shot 24.78%. Mo Taylor shot 0% (0-8). He might have the best stroke, but of the three, the only one that was worth having at the 3-point line was Griffin.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    As much as we disagree, I had the same thought reading the thread title.
     
  8. SamCassell

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    Mo's money, though, from 20' out. The perimeter jumper is a big part of his arsenal, and if he can work to extend his range another 3 feet and get 3 points instead of 2, why not try? Having a big man who could reliably space the floor like that would open things up even more inside for Yao.
     
  9. meh

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    I don't see this argument. Mo can't shoot 3s because he's never practiced shooting them. The fact that Mo Taylor can hit his 20-21 footers at about a 40% clip shows that he has the ability to take it out to the 3 point range. Of course, whether he actually works on it enough to work in games is another thing. But you can't doubt ability.
     
  10. Rockets34Legend

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    Say it w/ me MoT - DEFENSE!
     
  11. munco

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    comparing MoT's jumper to EG's is not even close. Mo hasn't shot 3s but his mid-range jumper is very good. It's accurate and in addition it has good form. It remains to be seen if he can hit the 3 but given his good mid range jumper and jump shooting form, I think he can become an effective 3 point shooter. In contrast EG never had a consisten jumper and his form is pretty ugly.
     
  12. MrRolo

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    I've seen MoT hit a couple of 3s (literally) in his first year as a rocket if im not mistaken. He has real good form on his jumpers, I'm sure with his 100 3's a day thing he'll know if its a good idea or not
     
  13. Deuce

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    I agree with the posts about wanting Mo to post up more. Mo is pretty effective with that jump hook. But the problem is Mo likes to "face up" on the defense too much and shot the jumper or try to take the defender off the dribble. Mo just doesnt seem to want to be patient playing his back to the basket game. And maybe he doesnt like the contract either. In either case, it is a shame because his post up game isnt too bad and is much higher percentage.
     
  14. Easy

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    Only when Yao's not there. The whole idea of getting Mo to shoot long shots is to free up the inside for the post up games of Yao and McGrady. Looks like JVG is trying to pull the PF to the perimeter on offense and let T-Mac do his things inside. You can't do that with Cato. But with Taylor, or even Howard, that can do wonders. Since Taylor can't rebound very well anyway, why not pull the opposing PF out and let the SF or the guards sneak in for the offensive rebound?
     
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    i like the idea of adding range to motays game.

    hes a good enough post entry passer to use in the high post, i expect alot of high pick and rolls with tmac as well.

    if you look at our offense, 4 of our 5 starters all have legit post up games. Yao, Tmac, Motay, JJ.

    that creates alot of havoc on the opposing defense if those players can create on the block, and hit the outside shot.

    having him roam the middle ground more will also open up some lanes inside that tmac can attack through and draw defenders.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    Pretty shot or not, Mo has zero history in shooting 3-pointers. EG may have an ugly shot, but he hit enough 3-pointers even in his rookie season that defenders knew they shouldn't dare him to shoot. If you want to put Mo on the 3-point line to take defensive pressure off of Yao and McGrady down low, he'll first need to establish a track record. That'll mean taking and making the 3-point shot with regularity for an extended period of time. If he can hit them, that'll be great. Early in the season he'll get a lot of open looks if he wants them since no one is going to respect his 3-pointer. But, he's going to have to actually show in his stats that he can hit them before defenders follow him out that far from the basket.
     
  17. m_cable

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    Well this is the whole point of having Mo practice his three point shooting. If he can get good at it, then it can be a real asset to the team. If he can't get good at it, then he goes back to doing what he's been doing. The only downside I see in this whole experiment is if Mo becomes enamored with the three, and spends his whole time out at the line even if he doesn't improve his three point shooting. I guess it could backfire like that. Although I'm sure JVG will sit Mo if he isn't producing on the court.
     
  18. rocket3forlife2

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    if you can shoot you can shoot,when i see mo T I see some chris webber in his game.both can score in the low post and both can kill u with the 20 foot jumper.I don't think he is really that bad at rebounds if he only played 27 mn last year and grabed 5.3 or whatever.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Mo Taylor doesn’t have good form on his jump shot. His shot is streaky, and when he’s hot its money. But I don’t think a shooting coach would classify it as good form. And for that reason I would be very surprised if he was able to increase his range through practice.
     
  20. SirCharlesFan

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    I'm not exactly sure that having Mo Taylor jack up 5 three pointers a game is a good idea, but I don't think that is what JVG wants him to do. With two skilled offensive players that generally command a double team, one big key to our success this year is having that player that you can kick the ball out to and have him knock the shot down. If MoTay can fill that role, then I'm all for it. While our offense should and will go through Yao and T-Mac, we will need our other players to have the capability to hit the open outside shot. Mo hit his shots at a pretty high percentage last year, and if he can add a couple of more feet to his range, he will be dangerous.
     

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