[Chron] Rockets target potential ahead of roster needs in draft

this guy is waay over rated on this board. yeah he has heart, but he is who he is. an undersized four that does not defend or rebound well. and I think Jordan Hill has much more upside than Carl Landry, which I feel is pretty much peaked out in his ability. (Flame suit on)

 

Ironic that you would question Feigan's deductive ability, and then proceed with your flawed argument.

Problem 1: There are almost no good underclassmen by 2nd round. Don't believe me? Just look them up. The reason Morey drafts seniors because that's all there is left. Your argument is akin to saying because Morey has not drafted an all-star yet, he does not like taking players with Durant/Lebron potential. It's not Morey's fault he can't draft higher than the mid-20s every year. And by then, every high-ceiling underclassmen is gone... Except maybe the Donte Greene draft.

Problem 2: Dorsey was raw. Greene was raw. Taylor was raw. Brooks was raw. All of them saw time in the NDBL. Llul was the perfect development Euro. If anything, Landry and Budinger are the only players who were actually NBA-ready as rookies. And even then, Morey did not expect them to contribute in their rookie years. It's not like Morey just knew off the top of his head that these guys would come in and play. They happened to exceed expectations.

 

We do know that Sacramento was high on him. We also know that Morey basically hijacked the last third of the first round that year thanks to good research telling him who other teams were high on. Thus we knew SA and Portland both wanted Batum and offered Portland the chance to beat SA to the punch in exchange for their 26 pick and their second rounder.

A team does not maneuver around the draft like that without good intel on all other teams. We knew what we were doing, which was building together a package good enough to entice Sacramento to part with Artest, who if you recall was also an expiring that year. They didn't have to trade him, but they liked what we had to offer better.

 

That does not confirm anything and is nothing more than speculation.

To use speculation....Portland probably already had discussions about acquiring the pick before the draft so he probably needed no intel on them except that they were willing to deal picks that he valued more than what he gave up. Morey is not going to draft a player for someone else unless he has a deal in place already because deals fall through more than they happen. There was no reason for the trade to take a month if it was already in place.

 

Donte Greene exploded in Summer League, that's the only reason Sacramento was so enticed on letting Ron go for him, Bobby Jacson, and a future 1st. No "inside intel".

http://dimemag.com/2008/07/donte-greenes-40-point-vegas-summer-league-show/

 

I'm sure they knew the kings had a glaring hole at SF and Greene was expected to be a lotto pick. That 40 point game did help a lot though.

 

Babbbit would be a perfect fit for the Rockets

 

the White Robert Horry.

 

Exactly anybody with a brain knows they are talking about Sanders.

Seriously, I would be shocked if the Rockets did not walk away with a big and since many or high on Whiteside I have to say that would be a mistake IMO. at least if Aldrich, Patterson, Orton or Sanders are still on the board at that time.

The reason I think this is because I think Whiteside is Thabeet light. He is 3 inches shorter ( I know standing reach is the same). He weighs 40 pounds less. In college only 27% of his shots came from the block, that is the lowest by far of any center prospect in the draft. He's not the brightest kid on the block, had a hard time getting in college. He doesn't appear to be able to bulk up very easily. He seems shy and sometimes disinterested in interviews. And he doesn't appear to have a passion to play the game. Those are major negatives that IMO overshadow his amazing shotblocking ability.

Compare that to Sanders who is only an inch shorter in reach. With 55.3% shooting from the post (4th best among all draft picks). Amazing from a guy who started so late and all indications hasn't received the best coaching from VCU who hired a new coach under Sanders watch. Also everyone believes Sanders will have no problem putting on weight with only 4.6% body fat there is definitely room to grow and he showed that last summer when he was 230. And finally this loves the game, he is smart and sharp with a great attitude. Attitude wise Whiteside=Eddie Griffen and Sanders = Hakeem.

Man I hope we get this kid. One other note the Rockets never show their cards. The fact that they haven't mentioned Sanders is a positive. I am sure they have seen him workout.

 

He reminds me of Chris Mullin/Toni Kukoc

 

I won't be shocked if we'd walk away with an SG, SF or even PG type. We could still trade for a big man.

 

The rockets haven't mentioned Sanders because they haven't mentioned one player in this entire draft publicly that I know of. I like the kids measurements, but have never seen him play or Virginia Commonwealth play this last few years. What kind of competition did he go up against to shoot the 55.3%?

 

Morey has said this is a good draft for big men, which means he's probably taking one of them instead of a PG or wing. The problem is that all the good bigs will likely be gone by #14, which is why we're trying to move up.

 

Fixed.

 

I stand very much corrected.

 

exactly we need another battier on this team. screw youth.

 

I've always felt like there is less risk when the draftee has a body of work; i.e., more than just one or two seasons in college. It's still a crapshoot, but the decision to pick guys who have longer college careers seems a smart one to me.

 

I disagree, we need to find our next franchise player. People will say 14 is to high, but cmon its Morey, give him the 14th pick and he'll make that kid look like he was drafted in the top 3.
Kings are also very successful at drafting (Tyreke Evans, they wanted Brooks, etc).

For the coté-BLANC fans:

 

Also forgot to add:

 

i like terrico white(jason terry) more than elliot williams(francis). the dunks dont impress more, i want bball iq and elliot has zero since he doesnt pass and thinks dunking is everything(francis)

remember, we all complain when portland trades up and "steals" the guy we want. Rudy fernadez,brandon roy...why dont we be the ones doing the trading up and "stealing"?

toronto has a guy we want. you may have heard of him. i think his name is bosh?(sp)

toronto wants paul george because the idiots(BC) have already shown thier hand and want paul .....this is so dumb on their part

now teams(rockets) can trade up just to take sabatage torontos draft night. we take paul and that gives us Wwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy more leverage in any bosh sign and trade