i never tried to use it as an argument in dicussing brooks and lowry though...i was just refering tot he fact that the poster thought it was funny that we're trying to find flaws, as if the flaws weren't significant or realistic, yet that's the very reason why he wasn't a lock to go #1 or #2 even. While the other teams may have had other reasons not to pick him, sacramento went with evans, who definitely wasn't top 3 material regardless of the team that were picking, so they basically don't think rubio was ahead of him. And does it really matter if you already have a pg (okc) if rubio is such a sure thing to be a superstar? The bulls still went with gordon even though they had hinrich...seems like there's something there that didn't scream "sure thing" to some teams..
Umm that's on Darko....they're not the same person....lol....and blame that on the pistons.....plus darko didn't play against the same competition level in europe that rubio plays against.....Darko was a reach even he knew it.....but he's still developed into a useful pro
I'm with you. I don't get the fuss at all. People are going ape***** over flashy passes that any Div-1 point guard with playground skills (which they all have) can pull off but don't because they aren't given carte blanche from their coaches such as afforded to Rubio. He'll be pretty good no doubt - his height alone and precocious experience should suffice for that. But I don't get the hyperbole at all. Flashy passing and ball handling isn't necessarily indicative of the IQ for which he is garnering raves. Ask Jason Williams about that after Hubie Brown shortened the leash he once had in Sacramento. People will misunderstand this post. I'm not saying Ricky Rubio is Jason Williams - the latter had well documented turnover problems. I'm saying that flashy play isn't necessarily indicative of IQ and is usually more correlated with a player's leash. You can't pull that crap under a strict coach in Div-1. But anyone that plays basketball knows everyone can handle/pass these days. It doesn't mean that translates to the NBA level and certainly not at a Nash-esque level. Color me unimpressed.
No, I'm saying that we should go after him if he has franchise player potential. I've seen the guy play once, I know nothing about him. But if Morey thinks he's the next Kidd, or Deron, or CP3 then why shouldn't we go after him? Are you so focused on "win-now" that you're forgetting we'll need a star in four years?
Ask Portland about Bowie, or Detroit about Darko, hell even LAC and the Candyman. For every "lock" 1-2 player you can list, I am sure I can list just as many star 3-6. Sometimes circumstance and need play an influential role. That is the way it works, it is not always an indictment on the players picked 3-5 vs. 1-2.
Of course, taking a lesson from the Yao MIng playbook, I'm sure Les Alexander sees the potential of Rubio on ticket sales, especially with our large Spanish speaking market. But then that gets me into the "I like Yao a lot but his skills are not as important to Les as is the marketing value" argument, so....
rubio should demand a trade to houston. i think he would go for houston, since we drafted his teammate Sergeio Llull. I think Houston would be a good destination!
He is not that GOOD! he didnt start for spain not quick, not strong, inability to finish at tha basket... wher is the upside?
he's not jacked compared to the average adult male, who's not nearly 7 feet tall. When us "average" sized people see howard, we think wow he's a monster and has bulging muscles, he's ripped, jacked etc...but for his size he isn't. His muscles, frame, bones, etc are suppose to be bigger than normal because of his height/size, just look at how small his legs are and you'll see he's not that packed with muscle it's just a combination of him having a low body fat, large bones, wide shoulders, etc that make him look jacked..he's not exceptionally big or strong for his size, to me someone who's jacked would be. His arms and shoulders do seem more muscularly built than the rest of his body, so that adds to the illusion that his whole body is jacked, but it's not, he's legs aren't that big and neither is his torso area. Don't get me wrong, he's still an athletic freak, i'm talking just about muscularity alone. I'm getting into personal training and studied health/kinesiology in school, so the subject is a touchy one for me, i just see Howard refered to as this player who's jacked, ripped, shredded, etc...and he's not. He's a player who's very athletic, has some solid size to him, but it's mainly his body's natural length and surface area that makes him appear "jacked" his shoulders are very wide and he seems to do a lot of shoulder training, but look at his forearms, chest, etc...if you scale him down to the height of the average male which is like 5'10, he's not going to draw much attention at the local gym, you'll see several guys on any given day with the same muscularity.
i didnt say it was, i'm not saying he can't turn out great later on if he was picked at 4, but i am saying that if he was picked as "late" as 4 then it may be premature to label him as a sure thing, which is what so many claim. Bowie wasn't a lock. Darko was an experiment, and candyman was in a weak trade. I wouldn't consider them what is typically called a "sure thing" at all. Rose was a sure thing, that's a guy you take even if you already have CP3 on your team. Lebron as well. A sure thing will be at least a star 100% of the time if they remain healthy, i dont think you can say that about rubio, he may have a high chance of it, but not 100%, if he did then any team would take him no matter what.
i dont like rubio much either, but i dont think dark was ever considered can't miss, there were definitely alot of questions surrounding the pick, it was basically hit or miss..
he's a basketball player. its not in a basketball players best interest to get overly muscular as you'll usually lose vertical leap and flexibility with the increased muscle mass. that being said, howard is definitely more jacked than your average gym rat. i should know because i am one. a lot of what he has is natural genetics, clearly, but there arent too many guys with that kind of physique at any of my gyms.
no kidding.... hey all you rubio fan boys who say he was bad ass in the olympics why don't you guys tell me what his shooting percentages were. he might as well have been rafer alston shooting the basketball except worse.
im not saying the guy can't get better but he is a project. anyone who shoots that poorly is a big time project.
