[Chron] Rockets preparing analytics-heavy presentation for Bosh

Not sure why they're wasting all their time on presentations. Just send these guys over to seal the deal:



"I'm Hugh Honey and this is my partner, Vic Vinegar. We're partners in real estate and we're partners in life."

 

Is that you, Richard Justice?

 

Im starting to beilve what seemed weeks ago like a delirious Fan idea Could very likely become realisticly ..
We really look like we have a shot .. Cant Wait till the 1st ..

 

They want their cake and eat it too. They want to win and make money. They have been making money for awhile now and you can never have enough of it, but they're also tired of seeing kobe win rings when he doesn't even have to play good.

Don you remember when barkley played for the minumum so the rockets can sign pippen? Do you remember when the rockets traded for barkley and signed kevin willis as a swing backup? Pippen to the rockets? Rodman to the Bulls? Shaq reducing his grandfathered in 30 m down to 20m? Guys want to make money and win, but most will take a little less if it meant they could win rings. Just from the outside looking in and I'm a huge rockets fan, i can't see the sell job especially when the rockets don't have any great players. They don't even have a player with deep postseason run experience aside from ariza. Yao is killing the cap flexibility with the games he's missing. Bosh if he goes to chicago and teams with lebron gets a chance to play in front of sellouts and a team where the relative ages are close to the same and they have a wider window. He comes to houston and yao goes down after they sign him, then what? A guy smrt like bosh isn't just looking at this year, he's looking probably 5 yrs down the road. Not to mention, they would be the favorites in the east and get homecourt advantage. I think the bulls are the front runners personally.

 

Did you just compare Barkley's situation to Bosh/Lebron/Wade's situation?

 

"pulling all the stops" would be paying World Wide Wes under the table or whatever else backroom deal teams have in place to influence Lebron and Bosh towards their franchise.

all this is nice but all you all are once again getting yourselves worked up by wandering into fantasy land. this aint happening in a vacuum, do you not think Chicago or the Knicks will have spectacular presentations?

 

Kinda sums up my feelings exactly. I will believe Bosh will come here if it ever happens.

 

Only in the sense that Barkley took minimum money to have a shot at winning a ring. Also, don't overlook the impact that Kevin Garnett's experience will have on this situation. A lot of these guys already have the money - it's the ring that will make them whole.

 

So a guy's decision at the end of a HOF career matters to 3 stars in their primes looking for a big payday how?

Name a single superstar in NBA history who chose less money for a better chance at winning a championship.

 

"SIGN THE LEASE MOTHERF#$%^%!!"

 

Wasn't JcDenton the guy who made all those detailed graphs for the Knicks during the Scott Layden-Isiah Thomas era?

 

Leebigez, the difference is you named players that were already declining, not at their prime. Players don't have a history of accepting less money when they are at their prime and focus of a team. When they are falling, but still have game left, they will take less money to be someone's sidekick because they look back at their careers and they've had the money, but not the rings. That's not the case here. Right now it's still too early for them to focus on winning only, they feel like they have time to make something happen, so money is still a bigger focus.

 

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I think you're wrong on this one. I think it really burns those guys up kobe is winning rings and has a plethora of good players surrounding him. It is about the rings and thats what the combining of talent is coming from. If it were about the money, one of them would just go sign with the wizards,minny, or a team like that. Those guys have been in the league since 03 and other than wade, none have a ring. Jordan took alot less in his prime mainly because he was getting paid so much with nike off the court. Lebron can sign a minimum contract and still make more than any player in the league right now. Wade has a huge commercial appeal as well and could do the same. Pat riley through wade is selling these players on the 80's showtime era when guys took less to get rings. I think bosh and james will be in chicago and take less than the maximum to get others in there also.

 

If they were looking for a big payday, why not just re-sign with their current team? I mean just because the rockets have the assets and guys want to go somewhere else, doesn't mean its all about the money.

 

You are missing the point here: these guys already have money and will continue to make money. But all that money won't buy them a ring. And as Lee pointed out that's the prime motivator in their lives if they want to be considered amongst the game's elite. After all, would you rather be remembered as a Kobe Bryant or as a John Stockton?

 

^^ Tough choice. Both cheat. Just in different ways.

 

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im not saying it's only a money issue, but that it's still the driving force for them at this stage in their career....yes they too want to win, but i think they feel they still have time to add minor pieces ( like going to a gutted miami team), instead of pulling together and trying to build a contender overnight. As they get older and the window of opportunity start to close, then they look for a way to win that year and dont want to wait for any other pieces.