1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[CHRON] Rockets' performance training methods modernized

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets111, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. BetterThanEver

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    9,931
    Likes Received:
    189
    I said "could", not "definite".

    http://www.englishpage.com/modals/could.html
    They could have a incorrect running style. They could win a ring, also. It suggests only the possiblity not a definite result.
     
  2. RV6

    RV6 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109

    "could" and "definite" can't be swapped in that sentence...and the condition in your sentence is not whether they could have had an incorrect style, but if we could have had Eto back then...not the same thing...
     
  3. Blake

    Blake Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    9,970
    Likes Received:
    3,005
  4. jwayne

    jwayne Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2009
    Messages:
    253
    Likes Received:
    40
    Im going to make a comparison: The Rockets and the Houston Cougars 2008 & 2009 football teams...

    I was a collegiate football player at Blinn College and the University of Houston back in late 90's thru 2000-2001. I remember we always had these body builder types that were our "strength and conditioning" coaches. They were big protein heads... they were as big around as they were tall, could throw up 450lb bench presses but couldnt run 10 yards without being winded. They trained us to lift weights and get some endurance running in but nothing sport specific. (Thank goodness for my own personal offseason trainer).

    You look at the Coogs football team in 2008 especially: Slow starters but they always had great second halves and by the 4th quarter, the opposing team was dead tired. Why? Because Coach Jackson is a real strength and conditioning coach! It isnt about how strong you are when lifting weights or how fast you can run 40 yds... its about how fast you are in pads in the fourth quarter... its about your technique and low pad level and who has the better leverage... that is football. Who cares about how much weight you can bench press? Make sense? Same thing with the Rockets new training regimen... I love the idea of having guys drive to the hole for layups getting pummeled with pads, I love the training with cords to strengthen the fast twitch muscles. Thats what its all about!

    I bet this year we see a fun year and a group that while they may not win a championship, they will be in great shape and will leave many teams behind in the 4th quarter... not everynight, but regardless, it should be fun!!
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

    HowsMyDriving Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    102
    you are exactly right, and this is the point i've been making throughout this thread.

    training an athlete to run is no different than training an athlete to bench press in concept. it's all muscle memory and the development of activity-specific muscle groups.

    the team should want to max them out - both performance and durability-wise - as basketball players, not runners. doing basketball-specific functional training is the right way to go imo, not all this "proper running form" bs.
     
  6. RV6

    RV6 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    Calling it BS is quite a stretch....if all players were brought up athletically in a proper manner, then yes, it would be BS. It would be like covering dribbling and shooting basics in the NBA with shooting guards. However, the truth is not all players are brough tup in elite AAU systems, or big time colleges. Not all have professional care growing up, and not all have had access to nutrionists and personal trainers. Some player get the NBA treatment in high school. Others still use rusty weights and drive themselves to games in college.

    I've mentioned how i suffered from muscle imbalances myself, and although i've always been a pretty good ball player, i never realized how much better i could be once i improved all that "BS", among other non-basketball related things.

    If a guy's poor running form caused him to bend lower than he had to at the waist, wouldnt that affect his court vision, since his head also would be bent lower than it had to?

    That could be the difference between Aaron Brooks being Aaron Brooks or becoming Tony Parker.

    If a player's poor runing form caused a player to develop flatter feet, wouldn't that affect his jumping since he no longer has the cushioning and spring-like affect of a foot arc?

    That could be the difference between Scola's current 2 inch vertical and a
    large one.

    And that's just 2 of several possibilities....

    The point is you never know how much a change like that can positively affect you until the change is made and this change pretty much only has positive effects. Most ball players aren't going to make or break their careers over running form, but it may be the difference between being on one level or the next, or lasting 48 mins or being able to continue into overtime.

    Fact is more of these ball players only dealth with basketball specific movements and exercises for most of their careers...how many didnt lift until their first nba season? how many never watched their diet? It's not a bad thing to look at things outside of basketball that are still related to fitness and athleticism.
     

Share This Page