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{Chron} Rockets Notes: McGrady feeling out of sync

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DcProWLer277, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I agree with you, I just don't think he is tradeable and Ron and his contract are......

    The only realistic trade for Tmac would be for Marbury, as an expiring contract....and that would mean blowing up the team, so it won't happen.

    I think if Tmac starts to get better and Ron continues to not fit (Not due to anything he is doing or not doing) then I believe Morey may try to move him for a complimentary piece which fits better....like a Mike Miller.

    Which IMHO, makes this team instantly a lot lot better.

    DD
     
  2. CheezeyBoy22

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    It's too early to say that Yao is declining. Too early...

    I don't think there's a decline on Artest either. He's not shooting well but he is also trying to fit in.
     
  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Ok, I don't like doing this, but I seriously question your fanhood right about now. 3 stars in decline? Seriously? Tmac, maybe, but Ron isn't in decline, he's about to peak, Yao is about to peak as well. You're pessimism is really really unfounded. Yes, between the big three 80% of our cap is gone. Yes, we didn't beat LA or Boston. But, a team still adjusting to RA's system, with a couple new faces, new role players, and new injuries being at the top of their division is awesome. San Antonio's big three are all injured, and yet they aren't doing as well as we are.
     
  4. northeastfan

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    Some will. Maybe about 30% of them. Just enough to keep him chucking.

    It's the casino effect. The gamblers need to win often enough to make them think they're doing well when, in fact, they are not.
     
  5. jVgOwnsYou

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    This is not true.....Tracy definantly needs the ball to be effective, but Yao? Not at all. Both he and artest are good at sealing their man in the paint away from the ball. both are terrific offensive rebounders.
     
  6. CheezeyBoy22

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    If you're going to trade T-Mac, this year isn't the year. He's going to make 23 million next year. You use it then.

    Also, guys comes the f%$& on. It's only 12 games in. There are 70 games to go. You are going to have to wait and see how Artest fits in when Battier comes back. Let's be realistic. Wait till February and then make a decision.
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    spot up shooters as well.
     
  8. northeastfan

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    TMac now is much worse than say the 2005 TMac, agreed?
    Yao now is much worse than say the 2006 (pre-injury) Yao, agreed?
    Artest is having career low numbers on the offensive end but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on him since I've only watched Artest play maybe 30 games or so unlike Yao and TMac (probably hundreds).

    So let me correct my statement.

    We've got 2.5 stars on the decline.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    I am in total agreement.

    What I was speaking about is what I said when the idea was brought up to bring Artest to Houston, I thought he was a ball stopper who did not fit in with Tmac.

    I hope to be proven wrong, but right now they all look out of sync....I am hopeful that a move to 6th man off the bench will alleviate the problem.

    However, will Ron want to stay as 6th man in a contract year? I just don't know, but am certainly willing to wait and see.

    And you guys saying Yao does not need the ball are missing the point....he needs to get the ball, and pass out when doubled or score when not doubled, and when he passes out, he needs catch and shoot players around him to penalize the other team for the double team.

    DD
     
  10. Tom Bombadillo

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    Yao needs more touches. Inside out got us 2 rings.............
     
  11. DaDakota

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    No zones allowed back in the day, now they can zone Yao, you have to be able to shoot over the top as well as play post.

    DD
     
  12. northeastfan

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    Terrific is probably too strong a word. Yao is probably an average to slightly above average offensive rebounder.

    Landry is better than either in that department.
     
  13. jVgOwnsYou

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    Ugh....Just because they were quicker and scored more points back then doesnt automtaically mean they were better players....They dont have to be as aggressive on offense now, and theyre still learning how to adapt to that. When they do, they will be smarter players, and in the end smart basketball is what wins games. Everyone is talented in the NBA. The smartest, toughest and deepest teams win.
     
  14. northeastfan

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    Also, Yao is no Dream. Not even close.
     
  15. jVgOwnsYou

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    Mainly because he plays off of yao ming.
     
  16. Rockets Jones

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    Indeed. I understand people want to get in a rhytm but he took 14 shots so that's good enough. Everybody wants more touches, you don't think people off the bench want more touches so they can get in rhythm ? Of course !! And what's up with the depth thing everytime ? We're not that deep !! Right now, Brooks is the only consistent shooter off the bench who gets a lot of touches. I'm sorry but Tracy is wrong about this one.
     
  17. IamKhan

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    what's next?

    Artest going public to say he needs more touches to get his jumper back? Then Alston ask more time from AB ?

    Coach A wants to design a system to unload some pressures from our stars. Apparently, TMac does not want that.
     
  18. redao

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    when TMAC gets the ball, he kills the motion offense.
    When TMAC did not get the ball, he was playing like crap and complaining.

    hmm....sounds like a perfect time to trade TMAC.
     
  19. sirbaihu

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    It's silly of me to react every time T-Mac has a hangnail or indigestion, but what the hell. . . . For a guy who was so close to going "back to square one" four days ago, he seems pretty eager to see action now. Just make up your mind if you want to play or not, Tracy. We're wasting precious man-hours here on your every whim.
     
  20. CheezeyBoy22

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    I think Artest is going to do what he needs to make sure he gets a nice contract in the end. I think he will accept it because one, you know that he's going to be playing starter minutes. There is no way he's going to be used only for 20 minutes. It's not going to happen.

    What people haven't realized is that Houston is in great shape come 2010. There is a lot of money coming off the books by then. Scola, Rafer, Landry (team option), T-Mac and someone else. Artest might not even sigh with us again but then again they can sign him and still have a lot of money come that time. There's only a few teams in the making that can have a great 2010. They will have money to be in the market for someone like Bosh. Just wait and see. And if you don't believe me. Go to hoopshype and then to Salaries. It's going to be sweet to see what happens.
     

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