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chron: Rockets' McGrady to seek second opinions on knee

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shehzad23, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

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    He has still NOT done the prescribed rehab treatment on the knee, he has done SOME strengthening, but not all of it, he continually does some, then takes some time off, does some, then takes some time off.

    That will not STRENGTHEN the knee.....if that is what it needs, he is doing a piss poor job of doing that.

    And how come the day after he shoots 1-9, he says the knee was not a problem he was just scared of jumping off of it?

    Then, he says...uh...oh, by the way, my knee really hurts?

    I think Tmac is still scared.....even Calvin Murphy talked about it......

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  2. jVgOwnsYou

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    When has the story ever come out that he didn't do the prescribed rehab? Where are you getting that info from?

    I heard the opposite. Maha has been quoted saying Mcgrady worked hard in the summer to rehab from both surgeries.
     
  3. RocketKobe24

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    Well the topic is about opinions on the knee, I think the Doctors at Arizona would know. But they did make him feel better though when he visited Arizona.

    He honestly should go there for opinions. I am not sure how credible the Nets are, although Vince Carter has been more durable ever since entering New Jersey.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Tmac said he didn't do the rehab, and the Chronicle has said he had not done it consistently.

    It is fairly obvious that the guy has not done what the doctors prescribe to make him get better.

    Does that mean he doesn't hurt, no, of course not, but if the doctors are right, and 4 of them have said the same thing...then he needs to get in the gym and strengthen that knee......

    Nothing else will work.

    They said the same as Clanton and Andrews......

    Although I think he did get a cortisone shot while he was there, right?


    DD
     
  5. leonking

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    lol, apprently it was not the injection that worked for him.

    Tmac's first 8 games in national TV (ESPN, TNT,NBATV)

    % points
    10/30/08 @ Mavericks W 3-10 16
    11/4/08 Celtics L 9-18 26
    11/6/08 @ Blazers L 11-23 30
    11/12/08 @ Suns W 11-18 27
    11/15/08 Hornets W 5-12 18
    11/19/08 Mavericks L 5-14 16
    11/21/08 @ Wizards W 7-12 20
    11/22/08 @ Magic W 6-13 17

    AVG 21.25 points 47.5% FG


    Tmac's first 7 games NOT in national TV (ESPN, TNT,NBATV)

    10/29/08 Grizzlies W 7-18 16
    11/1/08 Thunder W 6-15 22
    11/7/08 @ Clippers W 0-5 2
    11/9/08 @ Lakers L 1-11 3
    11/14/08 @ Spurs L 2-12 7
    11/17/08 @ Thunder W 4-6 8
    11/24/08 @ Heat W 2-7 6

    AVG 9.14 points 29.72% FG
     
  6. fmp087

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    Just another day in the life of T-Mac.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    yes. rehab is fine and all. but when you're playing in an NBA season like tracy started the year, the doctor said it was ok for him to play and the knee will keep improving as he plays (playing is like rehab also). and yet through 35 games, it still hasn't improved.

    playing scared is one thing. he tried to dunk several times and make cuts in the games before (and he had a facial though off his right leg) and those should have made him more confident. and he did play with more confidence prior to the bucks game.

    that missed dunk v. the bucks tells you his knee is still very weak. he had ZERO elevation off of that left knee. that was more than "being scared" to jump off of your left knee.

    i think tracy's just frustrated that his knee has taken forever to gain strength.

    again, it's the same thing with his back when he dealt with it a few years ago. medical doctors couldn't cure his back spasms at all.

    again, if tracy feels he can't get better, just sit out.
     
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    I'm quoting this from the gay club tranny thread b/c it applies to She-Mac as well:

    For pete's sake, Tracy, just go away for the rest of the year until your vagina heals. You are the expiring contract albatross for 2009-2010. And I can't wait until for you to be gone, gutless coward.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    no he said that he got injections before the game (and maybe visiting the doctor probably did so b/c im sure tracy doesn't inject himself).

    i think the 2nd opinions he's seeking is: i'm going to all these doctors, they're telling me if i keep playing my knee would get stronger. and yet it feels the same way as before.

    i think that's the main question in his mind right now.
     
  10. AggNRox

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    do you think doctors have nothing to do and just try to lie to ppl? doctor could be wrong but those are rare cases. after so many diagnosis, as a patient you have to shift your focus and do whatever doctor said instead your brain is full of sth wrong with your body.
     
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    But I really do hope the Doctors in New Jersey's opinions are that he should sit out for the rest of the season and get surgery. It's not like this team is DOOMED without him. This team will be doomed without Yao. The most valuable player on this team is now Yao Ming not Tracy McGrady.
     
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    maybe it's better if you put those days "consecutively." hint hint
     
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    What is the prescribed rehab, and where/when was it said that he didn't do it?

    I never heard anywhere that his training regimen during his 2-week absence in January was different from what was prescribed.
     
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    There is little doubt he could play through it, and be effective, for some reason he is just too scared or embarrassed to do it.

    DD
     
  15. DaDakota

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    There were some Rockets blogs from Feigen and quotes from Tmac about him not doing the rehab consistently.

    That pretty much says....uh...he didn't do it.

    DD
     
  16. t_mac1

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    medical doctors can solve a lot of things, but they can't solve everything. hence the case of tracy's back spasms. he went to MANY different doctors for his back problems and NONE (i repeat ZERO) solved his back spasms.

    he went to some witch doctor that does some electronic massage or whatever and it's healed.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    even if he didn't rehab properly over the offseason, the chron reported that tracy's knee should get better/gain more strength AS HE PLAYS MORE GAMES (or that's what the doctors told feign). tracy has played 35 games (with 4 weeks of hardcore rehab in between). his left knee still is weak. how do you explain that?

    he just needs a different therapy, like he did with his back. doctors didn't help him then. he needs to revisit that witch doctor and see if there's therapy for his knee. ;)
     
  18. leonking

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    As your wish. Now tell me how many injection he needs to play like that?

    % points

    10/29/08 Grizzlies W 7-18 16
    10/30/08 @ Mavericks W 3-10 16 national TV
    11/1/08 Thunder W 6-15 22
    11/4/08 Celtics L 9-18 26 national TV
    11/6/08 @ Blazers L 11-23 30 national TV
    11/7/08 @ Clippers W 0-5 2
    11/9/08 @ Lakers L 1-11 3
    11/12/08 @ Suns W 11-18 27 national TV
    11/14/08 @ Spurs L 2-12 7
    11/15/08 Hornets W 5-12 18 national TV
    11/17/08 @ Thunder W 4-6 8
    11/19/08 Mavericks L 5-14 16 national TV
    11/21/08 @ Wizards W 7-12 20 national TV
    11/22/08 @ Magic W 6-13 17 national TV
    11/24/08 @ Heat W 2-7 6
     
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    Says it all really.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    um, when happened in the 2 games before he got the injection bro? 5 points combined? i would say that's bad no? and cortisone injections last for what?
    and goes back to struggling after that phoenix game.
     

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