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[Chron] Rockets in stall pattern without Brooks and Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. marky :)

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    Yao played 3-4 games with Brooks this season and was restricted to a time limit, hasn't played in a year and was introduced into a new system. I'm not really a fan of Yao but he is a good player to have in the low post that demands double teams. Isn't amazaing how were losing by 9-12 points when brooks is out but only 3-5 when he was here? We're a team with good pieces, we just need a huge piece to make everything fit.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Maybe because every single one of the Rockets players does have glaring deficiencies that makes them collectively unimpressive, as was obvious for awhile.

    And let me think - what positives are there to take about being one of the worst teams in the NBA? Again? Cause like it or not, the Rockets were not a very good team last year despite the glorious achievement of a .500 lotto season.

    You can tell who wasn't around in the late 80's and 90's, lottery and, at best, early playoff flameouts appear to have become insitutionalized in the fanbase' expectation level - it used to not be like that during the Dream years.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Ok, and.....?

    There are no guarantees in free agency, trades, the draft anything.....and Hakeem is not walking through that door.

    DD
     
  4. SamFisher

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    so therefore you shouldn't try to get superstars, and should stand pat and pretend like midgets, retreads, malcontents, people with names ending in vowels, and various Great White Hopes will take you to the promised land!

    Be patient....this team is not that close, THIS YEAR...that's why it's about next year

    SF
     
  5. Jeff Who

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    But you have to do something. At some point the decision will have to be made. The sooner, the better.

    Those will be hard times for Rockets fans, but maybe it is worth to struggle for some time and than to finally again compete for a championship. Cause right now we are not even close.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Ok, but what do you do?

    I see a lot of people b****ing and moaning over where the team is, but not a lot of folks having any substantial arguments or suggestions.

    DD
     
  7. Jeff Who

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    I would say tank. Try to get young talent, draft picks. Do not resign Yao.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    They might just be going that direction....but tanking does not guarantee the top pick or even the top pick becomming a superstar.

    And, also that would require Morey to go to Adelman and lay down the law to play young players like Patterson, Hill, Ish, Bud, Taylor etc...at the expense of playing Hayes, Battier and others.

    Do you see Morey having that conversation, because I sure don't.

    DD
     
  9. Don FakeFan

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    Stop giving big contracts to backup PG Lowry, backup and old player Miller, old player Scola.
    Stop trading assets for soft role players like Martin.
    Stop giving away your assets for nothing, like the Ariza trade.

    Do not give big contract to AB.
    Do not sign Adelman back.

    Trade Yao for anything available, now.
    Tank for years until get a superstar.
    Keep Morey.

    for Les, please sell the team.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    So you want to win like 20 games a season?

    You have to retain your talent, or else you are the Clippers....

    Strange post Don.

    DD
     
  11. Don FakeFan

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    Rockets could also be Thunders or Celtics or Magic or Miami or Spurs or Blazers or Hornets.

    Clippers are an abnormal case. Their management is the worst. I don't know why you used them as an example.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    My point is they let talent go......the Rockets need to keep the talented players, and build around them....

    DD
     
  13. Don FakeFan

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    Rockets have 0 talented players except Brooks who is a talented backup PG. That's it.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I disagree with your assesment, they have a lot of talent, just lack direction, cohesion, and someone to mesh the strengths and weaknesses together.....

    Well, all of that and health.

    ;)

    DD
     
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    What about leadership? I think we lack that too, I see Shane doing it but who is going to take him seriously when he can't even play well.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I think the floor leadership was Aaron Brooks.....not saying he is perfect, but he was the defacto leader out there on the court.

    DD
     
  17. Don FakeFan

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    Your problem is that you are overrating every player on the team.

    How a team with AB as their leader have talents to build around?

    Rockets are a bunch of role players who do not have a role yet because there is no talent to build around.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    I have no problem I am rating them as they are playing, I am not saying they are superstars, but unlike you, I am not saying they are valueless either.

    If you think everyone sucks then of course everyone but you is overating the players.

    There is plenty of talent on this team, loads of it, but their is no cohesion, and no one super player.

    Psssst...most teams don't have one either.

    DD
     
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    I don´t remember teams "fronting" Scola so effectively more than the team going away from him untill they are desperate to make a basket.
    You will see for most part of our fourth quarters the kind of Martin´s, Lowry´s and even Lee´s jack up jump shots early in the fourth untill they realise Scola is their only way to Score.
    I am pretty sure that Scola is scoring at a very high % in the fourth and the team is not looking for him as mch as they could.
     
  20. hitman1900

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    As constructed, even with the injured players coming back, this team is going nowhere. I think the team should shop around with Yao, see what's available out there, it doesn't hurt to try. IMO, Aaron Brooks is only a difference maker to an already championship caliber team, he's not the one that will make a team a championship contender.

    If there really is nothing out there to be had, then just let the team keep doing what it's doing, at this rate they're headed to the lottery anyways. Who knows, maybe they finally get lucky and get a top pick.
     

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