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[Chron] Rockets deal forward Novak to Clippers

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rikesh316, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. kg143

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    He will always be up there with all the other great white hopes on the rockets in my mind (bullard, maloney, price) tomjanavich had too much rythim to be white ;)
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Matt Bullard's career statistics

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    Steve Novak's career stats

    They look strikingly similar for the beginnings of their careers.....

    Sometimes it takes a good fit for the player to get his chance......let's see how Novak's career pans out.....

    Look how Bullard floundered outside of Houston.......he was a good fit in the Dream dominated inside out offense.

    DD
     
  3. pmac

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    I felt Bullard was more useful as a big because he was a little stronger and had a wider frame. Novak plays smaller IMO but my argument didn't have anything to do with Matt Bullard. I don't think Novak is even a decent player. If we had a team that shot well, i don't think anyone would ever talk about him. We have a rugged defensive minded, rebounding, hustling team and he is our 'grass is greener on the other side' guy.

    I'm not sure i would want Matt Bullard on this team anyway, with all the good fowards we have.

    No use arguing, though. You will always side with the guy who can shoot and this just proves that no matter how much a guy sucks at everything else you will like him.
     
  4. doublebogey

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    Morey cant get a 2nd round pick for Novak. * sigh *

    But it's a honorable move for the Rockets to find Novak a home. I hope Novak can play better and earn himself a longer NBA career.

    The Rockets dump a small salary. But with Artest on board, if they sign/re-sign Dorsey, Landry & Deke back, 14 contracts (sans Mike Harris) are still over LT. Morey still has a little job to do if the Rockets want to go under LT by trade deadline.

    The Rockets still need 1 or 2 big backup 5 if Deke doesnt come back, I guess Adelman wants a veteran. Not too many good veteran backup 5s are available in cheap. Morey needs to find one with vet minimum if Deke doesnt come back. Good luck to him.
     
  5. pgabriel

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    yes, except matt averaged 6, novak 3, and matt played 80 games, steve 35 in their second seasons. other than that, they are strikingly similar
     
  6. DaDakota

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    One had a team that could use his skillset and a set of rules that favored the inside out game, while the other did not.

    It is all about situation and fit....I believe Novak and Bullard are about the same.

    DD
     
  7. tcadriel

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    Bullard had a high dunk over somebody that got him the nick name "Air Bullard", plus he got a ring.

    Novack? still trying to find some playtime, somewhere.

    Not only that, how many big shots did Bullard hit compared to Novack's 1. Bullard had a much bigger role.

    Novack was a good guy, BUT Luther has hit more big shots than Steve has.

    Good Luck in L.A. Steve!
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Huh?

    Where have I said that Novak was anything but a situational shooter? People are funny, they seem to take a small comment and blow it up into something that isn't...heck it happens on this board a lot.

    Example:

    Me "Novak can really shoot, he is a nice situational role player for when team's are doubling Yao down low"

    BBS "DD is in love with Novak thinks he should be in the rotation"

    Huh???????

    Me: " Rafer sucks, we know that, let's get V-Span some run to see if he might be the answer for our future, because this team as constructed is not going anywhere"

    BBS "DD loves V-Span, thinks he should replace Rafer immediatly as the starting PG"

    HUH?

    It is baffling the leaps of logic here sometimes.

    Simply baffling.

    DD
     
  9. smoove shoez

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    What does the roster look like now? I counted 13 so far under contract not including Ewing and singleton or Landry or deke or Redd :D
     
  10. solid

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    Another wasted draft choice: if they don't want them why do they draft them? Novak was pretty much a case of, "what you see is what you get."
     
  11. Yetti

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    Is it true that Head was cut from the team? :p
     
  12. battousai

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    i don't know about trading Novak for pick(s). I know it will be a high second pick, but novak still young and viable to us in certain situation.

    I rather see a trade with a player then picks. I hope Morey isn't trying to save a few bucks now.

    we still don't have a commitment from Landry yet, unless we get him back then novak could be extra.
     
  13. EbolaScola

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    I would've preferred to get rid of Luther first.
     
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    ^^
    Identify the object that does not belong in the group.
    Answer: Piatkowski. He was a rental that didn't work out. All the other three were Rockets draft picks.

    I think Novak was a reactionary pick in the JVG era. I vividly remember JVG said after the 05-06 season, a season of offensive futility, that they needed a PF that can spread the floor for Yao. There on the draft day we got Novak.
     
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    Whoever it was that said Novak just flat-out couldn't get open the way Korver and Kapono can is absolutely right. There's no strikingly different skill sets that separate Kapono/Korver from Novak other than their ability to find open spots on the floor, create their own shots occasionally and overall just punishing the defense for not respecting them.

    All we ever saw Novak do was stand around on the perimeter. There was no movement, no cutting, no flares, no anything. It was just stand around, catch-and-shoot. Even the big shot he made against Sacramento he was doing exactly this.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I know it was almost like he had no idea what to do if he was not running a play designed for him to come off of a screen and shoot.

    Whereas Maarty Luenan moves into open space well as soon as his defender turns his head....that is a good move...standing in one place and waiting for the ball? Not so much.

    DD
     
  17. pmac

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    C'mon you know what i said was right. You wanted to drop Hayes like a sack of potatoes earlier in the offseason but you're all distraught over us loosing Novak.

    When will you hold Novak accountable for his own play? Why is it always our PG, our players, our system? What about him, doesn't he have some control over how well he plays?

    I mean, i could say that about everybody. If we had more shooters Tmac and Alston wouldn't have to shoot, so they wouldn't be as bad. More ball handlers and Head wouldn't be exposed etc, etc.
     
  18. baller4life315

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    I see what you're saying and I like this guy as a possible Novak replacement. Only problem is obviously we're out of roster spots at this point.

    This Leunen kid seems to be a lot like Novak. Not much of an athlete, little upside and doesn't really have an NBA position. The only thing they have to fall back on is the killer accuracy from downtown and I have to admit there's always going to be a need for guys like that.

    I didn't get a chance to see him play all that much but I like what i'm hearing: better court awareness, finds open spots and understands a motion offense. Novak had none of that.
     
  19. BMoney

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    They took a flier on a second round pick. It's not like they blew a lottery pick. It's not like they didn't get anything in return for him, either. The Rockets roster just got a lot better since he arrived. No point in being upset about Novak, is there?
     
  20. FR0497

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    Almost got it down. Leunen is a much better athlete, plays a lot better D, and can actually create a little for himself. He does a decent job at taking it to the basket. But your right on about not having enough roster spots for him unless we can get rid of Luther freakin Head. Some people are saying bring in Harris if we get an open spot but we have Ron Ron now. I would definitely give it to Leunen instead.
     

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