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Chron post game report: Francis said the Bosh Shot is just lucky

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ivanyy2000, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. hulk

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    Haha, that's exactly what I thought.
    Since Steve usually does this, he think eveyone else will do the same as him. What can I say with a player w/o basketball IQ and respect to the game?

     
  2. hulk

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    Yeah, I still remember Utah's game. After the game, Rudy complained that Yao did NOT foul Malone.

     
  3. Raven

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    Hey Steve, has it ever occured to you that your style of play might be making all these players lucky.

    Raven
     
  4. nbalive2005

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    losers always blame others....

    find excuses...

    good job francis...
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    To contrast with Steve's idiocy, here is what Cat had to say:

     
  6. nbalive2005

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    i thought he nailed 8 straight FTs..... all in clutch situations...
    nice kid..
     
  7. 1stflybug

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    Another famous execuse from SF should be
    "my quality shots are just not falling...",:D
     
  8. Sane

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    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

    He doesn't freaking know. Oh my God, he doesn't know what the little things are, does he?

    Things in basketball??? What kind of nswer is that?

    Wow, I lost a LOT of faith in Cat after that, but at least it was a good laugh to hear that from one of our 3 "core" players.
     
  9. francis 4 prez

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    hmmm, i could've sworn steve hit a shot with 1:18 to go to give us a lead, then hit the potential game-sealer with 14.9 left, then scored the 4 points in OT that tied it up, then hit cato for the shot to give us the lead, then passed to jj for an open shot, then after jj missed he fought for the rebound and got it tipped back out (otherwise you wouldn't even have an opportunity to complain about his bad shot at the end of OT, at least he ran the clock out unlike drexler (sorry, flashback to game 6)). sounds like steve made plenty of big plays to go with his missed shots but you just wanna focus on the missed shots.

    maybe steve just didn't wanna make jvg look bad by saying "i can't believe our coach didn't foul and then made us double team a guy shooting 4/20 to leave a guy open who showed long range ability in college. what was he thinking?" i guess he could've said that, but i guess he defended jvg's decision to do it.
     
  10. francis 4 prez

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    friggin hilarious. you do realize that was just a "i'm frustrated by the loss and don't feel like talking to you" quote don't you. you do, don't you?

    of course, you hate on cat all the time, so it's not like this is surprising. pretending you had faith in cat is hilarious first of all. then you take one quote after a game and do it to make yourself look even worse. then you take a quote that was clearly said in frustration after the loss (was he supposed to make a big speech on all the things they did wrong when he's pissed off after a game?) and diss cat. just put "i'm a cat hater" in your signature and get it over with so people will know not to take your opinions on cat seriously.
     
  11. Sane

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    You're right, I didn't have faith in Cat. However, I had some faith that JVG would change Cat.

    I made it very clear that I knew Cat could do what we liked for a few games, but every single time I posted, I re-iterated that Cat will go on his streak of horrible games with bad shooting and high TO's while making dumbass plays, i.e., "the little things".

    Hell no I don't think was tired, because we all know Cat never gets tired of whining. I am confident that if you handed him a pen and paper, he could maybe jot down one or POSSIBLY 2 of these "little things". The guy just isn't a system player, why should we turn him into something he's NOT when he can break down at any second? Why don't we get someone who's happy to do, able to do, and concisitent in what we want him to do?


    Now Cat will have another 2 good games, and you'll be all over the "Cat haters" saying "NOW what?"...But then 2 games later, I'll be able to say "NOW what?"

    Aren't you friggin sick of it? We've been doing it for 2 frikkin years, he just bounces up and down like a damn yo-yo. He's not consistent, it's just not liek him to be consistent. He'll try to be consistent, but at some point, he'll go back to his old self again.

    Enough, I'm sick of it. If JVG thinks he can change Cat, that's great, I actually believe JVG, unlike Mobley. However, I'm pretty damn sure that JVG will find a replacement for Mobley, and he'll put his stamp on them ove too. Either that, or we'll get a new franchise player in place of Steve, you know why? because you can't have 2 inconsistent players in the backcourt, when they can't make up for bad shooting with their intangibles (or lack of it).
     
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    You know, there are so many ways not to make your coach looking bad without saying such a ridiculous thing. Speaking of not making coach looking bad, how about follow your coach's instruction for a change?

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?threadid=68461

    Care to comment on that also?

    Note that I'm not denying SF's incredible athletic(and some basketball) ability and his importance to the team. So you can save that part.

    Just say as it is. Your name, enough said.
     
  13. Oski2005

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    Yes, I'm undercover.
     
  14. GATER

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    Francis was right, but he should have held back the urge to comment or at least softened it a bit. Personally, I don't see Bosh at the arc as a permanent part of Kevin O'Neal's end-game strategy any time soon....


    Off-topic, but regarding Mobley, I heard a recent comment that I think is applicable.

    During one of San Antonio's recent games without Duncan and Parker, Doug Collins commented about Mano Ginobilli's game style and how it drives a game control coach like Popovic insane. The gyst of the comment was that (in Manu's case), you had to take the good with the bad and try to minimize the bad. IMO, this will be how JVG approaches Cuttino's game. He will realize that a permanent alteration is not possible but try to place Cat in the most positive position to succeed on both O and D.
     
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    I could not say it better. I still remember last season, when Yao and SF tried pick and roll in that situation , the shot SF came up with looked so great,and they did it more than once. You were almost sure that's a swish just after the ball left SF's hand. But last night, those couple shots, I was so frustrated right after the ball left his hand because it looked too ugly.
     
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    While I do not have any strong feeling against Steve, we got to be objective. In this game, as I mentioned in other threads, Steve made some brilliant and amazing plays as you mentioned, but the stupid decision and plays he made in the game far outnumbered the good action he did and that costed us a game. Don't be blinded by his spectacular plays at times which we often do, simply look at his stat. He scored 1 out 3 attempts. 1 assist for a PG in 50 minutes of play.

    You got to be kidding that he brought us back in the game. We made the run the third quarter and early fourth quarter when Francis passed the ball a little more. (That was the time Yao and Cat were doing their things.) After Francis completely shut down the passing mentality, we went straight downhill even with his occasional "brilliant" plays. It is that simple. In this game, he did not have to be passing the ball around all the time, he simply pass a little bit more to a higher % shot, we would have won the game because Raptor was sucked.

    :(
     
  17. sicnarf3

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    I think he's calling out Francis for not making the right plays down the stretch, like passing to a teammate, instead of throwing desperation shots. You know, things in basketball.
     
  18. Jebus

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    Who's playing the game? I'm pretty sure I've never seen JVG wearing those shiny red and white uniforms.

    I wouldn't blame Francis alone for the loss, but his boneheaded plays at the end of regulation and the first OT sure offset the good things he did. To echo others, why stand around and wait to jack up a 3, when a foul or a 2 is good enough?

    homerun.
     
  19. Jebus

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    not any more!
     
  20. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    If a player points out specific mistakes, then he shifts the blame from the team to the individuals who made those mistakes. Cuttino's response here was 100% correct, and to be sure, it’s the type of general, non disruptive response that players are coached to make to the press.

    With Yao still struggling to find his way on the court and struggling with a language barrier, and with Steve enjoying the same consistency in controlling his mouth as he does controlling the ball, Mobley is most assuredly becoming this team's leader.

    And back here at the BBS, once again, Sane very obviously isn’t.
     

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