[Chron] Players support Adelman, want coaches back

You're right. Phil doesn't do that sort of mistake. Neither does Thibs. Just ask Derek Fisher and Keith Bogans about it.

 

nowhere have i said that he is a bad coach. i said that he will never win us a title as head coach. and this is for all the reasons i've already stated in this thread, notably his lack of flexibility and low-priority on defense.

 

This team with out yao was not supposed to be a force in the league thats why no body gave us love in the media this team pretty much won about what it was expected to begin with, sure adelman is a good coach and i would love to have him back but its not like he's gona win us a championship, we need star talent and with him on board were always gona be a good enough team to be drafting around 14-20 im just ready for a change but thats just my opinion i dont see why ur so sensitive

 

Please go into more depth about how Adelman is the reason we don't have star players and are missing roster pieces?

 

I sense sarcasm with this reply. In those two cases Phil and Thibs have superstar MVP candidates on their roster so margin of error is much higher in their respective situations. When you don't have as much talent, poor rotation/player subs and playing certain players past their effectiveness tend to stick out more and are more costly.
It's some good points and arguments on both sides of the debate for Adelman. I'm just ready for change.

 

This is the job of Rocket management. I'm sure they have already started doing their homework. I'm thinking management is going to go the route of getting an up and coming coach, which could be good.

 

Please excuse the rest of us for not wanting to dump a HOF coach because you are "just ready for a change"

 

I agree it was a blunder by management to not have a better insurance policy in place for Yao Ming, but it appears management was trying to pacify Adelman by bringing in Miller who is a defensive stiff past his prime which handicapped them from getting a better option.

 

Miller was brought in to back up Yao.

 

I am not sure its time to move on from Adelman. In fact I dont agree with it. The players are right. Who is gonna fill his shoes? Nobody i know who can do a good job. Rockets should have had enough insight to hire Tom Thibodeau when the time was right. They messed that up. Now there isnt a guy out there we would want. Bulls going to Championship round because of it. Another weakness I am pointing out with our moves. Adelman for what we got is just fine now.

 

Lack of a impact player is the bigger problem than a coach imo. If Adelman wants to stay, then the Rockets should make every effort to keep him. No up-and-comers please, not with this roster. It will just lead to revolving-door coaches like the other lottery teams.

 

Something to think about....

I only looked back through the past 20 seasons, but in that time the:

00/01 Rockets went 45-37 with a +2.3 Differential
07/08 Warriors went 48-34 with a +2.2 Differential

were the top 2 differentials to NOT make the playoffs.

10/11 Rockets are currently 42-38 with a +2.1 Differential, and seem to be on pace to be pretty close to surpassing or equaling the +2.3 margin.(our margin over the last 25% of the season is +6.30, 5th overall in that time period)

I don't know exactly how much stock to put in to it, but to me its pretty impressive when you think of all the crap we dealt with this season. Not that anyone should be happy with where we ended, but the fact remains that differential is a better indicator of a teams quality than their w/l record and we are looking at being the best of the non playoff teams in ATLEAST the last 20 years, and our differential would be better than several of the teams that actually did make the playoffs in those seasons.

Even if we stood pat, which I doubt we will be doing, this team as constructed, would be a low level playoff team(6-8) next year(if we finally dodge the injury curse). Crap luck, injuries, constant roster fluctuation all led to us losing a handful of games we shouldn't have. Which also leads me to believe that we are closer than most people think. To me were only one giant piece(DH) or 2 really good pieces from contention.

I think the coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for working with what they were given. I also think Rick deserves a chance of at least 1 year where his highest paid player actually contributes to the team for an entire season. I hope we bring him back.

 

So what exactly is your strategy? Suck. Win the lottery. Draft the next Lebron James?

 

That's a nonsensical question because the team wouldn't be 28-51 under Adelman.

 

One of my concerns is that the Rockets need to see what they have in Thabeet and Williams in order to evaluate whether they want to keep those guys around. Is Adelman going to give those guys the minutes to play or will they we plastered on the bench?

I'm on the fence about Williams, but I know I liked what I saw from him in New Jersey, and a lot of ppl where excited when we got him. He has potential and has a lot of maturing to do, but so do a lot of young players (ie Cousins). Don't know how Thabeet will turn out, but he needs the minutes and time to prove himself.

I don't know if Adelman will give Williams and Thabeet the minutes to prove their worth. He seems to allow certain players to play through massive slumps (like Budinger pre-allstar break) and temper tantrums (ie Brooks) while other players are put on short leashes.

Anyways, I trust in Morey to help Les make a good decision.

 

What does that have to do with what I was talking about? Saying that we're not two pieces away from being a contender isn't me disagreeing with Morey's plan of acquiring a superstar via asset trade.

 

"Just ready for a change" sounds similar to what Les thought when he dumped JVG.