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[Chron] Owner has different vibe with new hire

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. Nook

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    This whole thing has turned into a pi$$ing contest....

    I can say that Adelman is not a hall of fame coach.
    I can point out that he has never won a championship.
    I can point out that he was "let go" by Portland, Golden State, Sacramento and now Houston.
    I can point out that the team did better after Morey made the trades that Adelman didn't like.
    I can point out that if Adelman is getting praised for having the highest winning percentage in franchise history, then the GM during that same time deserves praise as well.

    They can point out that Adelman has won everywhere he has been except Golden State.
    They can argue that Morey has not gotten a superstar to replace Yao and TMac.
    They can point out that Adelman handled the TMac situation well........

    Both sides are right, Adelman is a good coach, and Morey is a good GM.

    Adelman's job as a coach was to make the playoffs and win games, and he played the players he felt gave the team the best chance to win. Adelman did not want a GM or front office limiting his ability to coach by telling him whom to play and how much to play.
    Morey's job is to put the team in the long term position to win, and that is not always winning right now. Morey did not want a coach limiting his ability to do his job. He did not want a coach that would not play someone the team dealt assets for or believed would help the team long term. Morey did not want a coach that would say "I don't know what I will do with him", in reference to a player that Morey just got....

    It was inevitable, the GM and coach were not going to co-exist once the Rockets were clearly not going to be elite. The coach did not want a GM dealing the players he wanted to keep. The GM did not want to worry about whether his coach would play guys he wanted played.

    Morey wanted some say in who played, Adelman wanted some say in whom was and wasn't dealt, etc...

    The GM won - because he is the GM. Morey will claim Adelman could have come back if he was flexible, Adelman will say that he wanted to stay if Morey would be flexible...

    Both are right..
     
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  2. meh

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    Oddly enough, you missed the point entirely.

    While all these thread title are about Adelman and McHale, the true discussion actually centers around the Rockets front office, or more specifically Morey. Trust me, if someone like Rudy T was the GM and did the same thing, there would be no pissing match, because something like "2 championships = /thread".

    Basically Morey is not a uniter. :)
     
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    In the end, LES is always more.

    that should be our glorious battle slogan.
     
  4. Easy

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    Actually, I think most detractors are not against Morey. (There are some exceptions on both sides, of course.) It's Les Alexander. The suspicion is that the so-called differences in philosophy is not so big that two smart people like Morey and Adelman cannot work it out, but rather it's the owner who has gotten tired of the coach.
     
  5. Nook

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    Say what you will about Les... but he certainly made some excellent hires over the years; from VanGundy to Adelman, to Morey. Alexander will not hire you to make decisions unless you are bright.

    He took a shot on Morey and it paid off, we will see how the McHale hire works out.
     
  6. thetatomatis

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    Just gonna go along with the changes and see what happens. Would like to see where this is going first. Then comment if I like the direction or not.
     
  7. heypartner

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    The McFinch era
     
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    Not sure if I can improve upon this post.

    I love cfnet
     
  9. heypartner

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    No, not at all. There weren't two opposing views on how to coach a team...there were two opposing views on how to be a freaking GM.

    Don't f!ck with the coaching staff.
     
  10. CXbby

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    Since this thread is still alive and kicking, will someone please answer this with a straight face? It is pretty obvious that plenty believe "Less" is the cause of... well whatever he is the cause of. So there shouldn't be a problem pointing out where he has gone wrong, specifically.
     
  11. heypartner

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    yep ... and every bad decision ever made post-rings by the Rockets was his. And that is a lot more than the good decisions.

    Les Alexander is the devil. And anyone who defends what just happened to Rick Adelman. JVG. Rudy, Hakeem, etc ... is naive
     
  12. CXbby

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    [​IMG]

    lol kids these days

    EDIT:

    I forgot the obligatory
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    I hope McHale will do well. But you know, if Van Gundy and Adelman were excellent hires, then they were also poor fires. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    That is too shallow a way of looking at it. They can be excellent fires as well as long as their replacements are even better, or in our most recent case, a better fit.(actually, that was the case for every fire/hire)

    Trust me, I have little doubt that he is as old as dirt in the flesh. But as far as in spirit, he is clearly as blissful and naive as a 12 year old. Oh how I envy those carefree days.
     
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    good players arent good forever.
    good coaches arent good forever either.

    timing is everything.
     

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