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Chron: Owner expects team to be Title-Caliber

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CheezeyBoy22, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. kaocsaephan

    kaocsaephan Member

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    What are you talking about? Please make sense. Sure, prime T-Mac could have/would have won rings with a prime-Shaq. Who said he couldn't? Did I bring up Kobe's 3 rings? I've always considered Kobe sidekick and fortunate to have been able to play with Shaq. Wade without Shaq? You mean injured Wade? Do you know anything about the NBA? Or did you just recently started watching?

    I'm not holding this series against T-Mac (07-08 vs Jazz). While I know it was another disappointing end to a spectacular season, I also am aware of 06-07. Did you forget? Or are you just not capable of thinking outside the box?

    Let me put it to you this way: Put Kobe in that game 7 against the Jazz with Yao, Shane, and co. Do we taste round 2?

    Again, I am cheering for T-Mac and the Rockets. But I'm not in denial. If this Rockets team, 09-10, cannot advance, there is no excuse.
     
  2. heypartner

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    Did Les just admit to "wanting to lose" Hakeem Olajuwon to Toronto?

    Les also did not resign Posey.
     
  3. kaocsaephan

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    What I'm trying to say is that, ronnymac, your logic is really bad. Maybe you just aren't aware of the seasons prior to 07-08. But T-Mac did have Yao in 06-07. And we might still not have beaten the Jazz, even with Kobe, but I'm sure we would have scored more than 80points.

    My original post, however, was more directed to this upcoming season. But you are one sensitive, irrational, and insecure fan so you took offense. This is the season where you've just added Artest/Barry, creating a bench that is THAT much deeper. I said there should be no reasons to not go far.

    Reading is great and all, but how about we add some thinking to it?
     
  4. txppratt

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    thats a legit concern. and my worry as well.

    if he really wants to win... he will take less to finish his career in houston. and possibly win a few titles.
     
  5. forchette49

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    I know I wouldn't be! And either should anyone else, I'm sure plenty of Laker's fans agree... (along with Ron Artest)

    I'm more proud of the 22 in a row, than a Finals loss anyday...
     
  6. Illmatic

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    lol, thats not really a legit concern. No other team will pay him max, bad thing Isaiah is retired. T-Mac is not a star player and cannot even carry a team by himself, he is old (although a lot of u want to believe otherwise), and at the end of his career. If he is really expecting max money or superstar money, he is in for a rude awakening.

    Also, i understand you gotta learn how to walk before you fly i.e. first round before finals, but with this current lineup. its at least WCF finals or bust. 2nd round will not cut it
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Something that never gets old: Les promising titles every October and TMac saying it's on him every May.
     
  8. kaocsaephan

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    @ Illmatic,
    I agree with the last part. WCF OR BUST. I personally expect WCF, Game 7, double OT, and losing at the buzzer due to a Robert Horry 3 the only acceptable defeat short of a finals :D

    But T-Mac IS a star. Maybe not on the same level as LeBron, Kobe, Chris Paul (sad to say), but he is, without a doubt, still a star. And I do agree that there is no way T-Mac would get another max extension.
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    @forchette49,

    I really don't know about that. 22 Games... and we didn't get much respect for it. It's like it never happened. Also, other teams/fans would argue that we went through a weak schedule. But in our defense, we would say we played the schedule as it was made, and they are all professional teams. But I don't know if I'd prefer 22 streak (I know it's rare) and losing to your enemy in the first round over beating the crap out of a "powerhouse" western conference...even if you end up losing in the finals.
     
  9. Jerry36

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    With Kobe, the rockets win that series. It's no way Kobe is going to disappear in the last six minutes of the game. Remember the Olympics, crucial moments of the game and Kobe step up. You don't make a statement saying "It's on me"" and disappear in the crucial moments of the game. It's just doesn't look good folks.
     
  10. Yetti

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    Rubbish! I say to you Rubbish! Open your mind and give them a chance, don't draw to this conclusion , especially because your information about these players is only that of a Fan. :p
     
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    I am betting TMac retires at the end of his contract. Now if the Rockets win a championship before that happens, all bets are off.
     
  13. bluesinsoul

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    You talk like we are going to lose in the 1st round...
     
  14. caneks

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    He doesn't have that kind of personality. If you are bettting on his current contract, then your odds are very very small.
     
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    Assuming everybody stays healthy, I really can't argue with what you said. You pair any other "superstar guard" in with a healthy Yao and Artest, and that's an automatic championship contender. However, I still think the Rockets are going to get it done, and not necessarily because of any one person. As a team, it is really hard to find weaknesses, and this is where the signings of Barry, Landry, and Dorsey along with the development of Scola and Brooks really comes into play. I think Barry's shooting is going to be a HUGE factor come playoff time. Think about how many open 3's the Rockets have missed in past playoffs, and now, with our big 3, the shooters are going to be getting more open looks than ever.
     
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    I swear I read (and felt) it the same way this morning. Some pain never goes away...
     
  17. txppratt

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    i think you're wrong.

    another team could swoop in and pay tmac max money for a year or two. maybe a team that is close and needs one more piece to be legit?

    it wouldn't have to be a 6 year deal. dont underestimate the deperation moves alot of GMs in the league would make to sell tickets. or to get him away from the rockets.

    mcgrady will draw ALOT of interest.
     
  18. Andy Sheets

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    If they lose 4 out of 5 starters to surgery again, I'd call that a reasonable excuse :)
     
  19. caneks

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    Actually, T-mac, Battier and Alston took most of 3's. Battier and Alston had high percentage. It is unrealistic to expect them to be much better than that.
     
  20. CheezeyBoy22

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    Brent Barry will be the one hitting those three's this year. I hope that calf isn't bad!
     

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