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Chron: No more Bench for Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by gucci888, Mar 4, 2005.

  1. NBAviewer

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    :D Do u guys play poker? If Someone called all in before the flop when u have a Ace and King in hand, what you gonna do? fold??

    Good call JVG, if lose, lose like a man.
     
  2. El Toro

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    Another added benefit of leaving Yao on the court is the increased likelihood he "helps out" on the defensive end, in more ways than one.
     
  3. The Ming Dynasty

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    Good post Deuce! I agree 100%. The refs changed the rules of basketball in '94 for Pat Riley's Knicks that fouled 2-3 times every time down the court. They probably called about 1/3 of the fouls that actually occured. The refs will grow acustom to it and will never call it every time if it happens on a regular basis. I'm not condoning fouling each time down the court (as I hate dirty players), but currently we have no respect and if we do foul, we need to make them think about it next time. An elbow to the temple goes a lot further than whining to the refs.
     
  4. reptilexcq

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    I always kind of laugh when coaches take quality players out with 2 fouls in the 1st quarter. It's lke they have to do it or else they're going to lose or whatever. I don't believe that strategy....cuz some players can go on and on without getting a single foul.
     
  5. Uprising

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    WHOOP! This better light a fire under his ass now! Seriously, we need Yao to step it up again. He better take care of himself now and not foul out. Coachy ain't going to be there to bail him out.
     
  6. Believe

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    So why is it that Yao played only 29 minutes when he only had two fouls and was shooting 50 % from the field?
     
  7. ivanyy2000

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    Because you didn't watch the game.
     
  8. Believe

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    So Mrs. Trump what exactly makes you think that I did not watch the game? Just curious?
     
  9. Believe

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    And even if I didn't watch the game what is wrong with me asking a simple damn question? I believe maam that you are exactly what is wrong with this bbs. Have a great day Mrs. Nice guy!!!
     
  10. Uprising

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    because you asked that question.

    Watching the game would have explained that. Did you not see who sparked the team in the 4th (on the defensive end).

    You don't sub a guy who is doing great. The team ran away with the win with Yao on the bench, and so why would you put him back just for the sake of having him in when it shows that the team doesn't need him at that current moment? You don't make changes unless they are needed.

    EDIT: Just found this too.............

    Jeff Van Gundy planned to keep Yao Ming in the game despite early foul trouble. He didn't. Yao screwed up the plan by failing to get in early foul trouble. But Van Gundy did substitute differently than he had been. He kept Dikembe Mutombo in the game in the fourth quarter until the rout was certain because the Rockets were playing so well at the time. With that, Van Gundy might have done just what he promised, dropping the formula to do what he thought would work. With Mutombo playing beyond expectations this season, that would seem a good way to handle the position. It might even take the pressure off Yao enough to get more out of him and his backup.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3071713
     
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  11. mad4snk

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    I' m not a YOF but I found my sig for the season. :)
     
  12. Believe

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    Hey uprising thank you for your input.

    It would be nice if I could just ask a simple question regardless of whether I had watched the game or not, and get a straight answer from someone, instead of having to deal with someones BULL ISH...

    Q. Yes why did Tmac only play 10 min?

    A. Because you didn't watch the game.

    Hmmm...

    Q. Why did J Howard rebound more this game?

    A. Because you didn't watch the game.

    Double Hmmm...

    This board is full of a$s holes with respnoses just like that and worse. No benefit of the doubt. No decent, common freakin courtesy.

    It was a simple question.

    Right Mrs. Trump???
     
  13. JayZ750

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    Then maybe you didn't watch the game. I was there. The whole team was lethargic in the 3rd quarter. Yao started it with a wacky pass that resulted in a turnover, but McGrady wasn't doing anything and turned the ball over as well, etc., etc.

    The Mavs caught up....BUT, the Rockets and Yao, especially, did finally turn it around half-way through the quarter, when Yao scored 6 points in a couple of minutes.

    Then, at the 4:50ish mark, JVG took him out. I mean, I understand JVG was saying to himself,

    "Crap, we just let the Mavs back in the game, and we've just managed to hold them off. Now might be a good time to rest Yao so that he is ready for the 4th quarter."

    But, that goes against what he said he would do. Further, it just seemed stupid to me at the time. Yao is a rythm player as much as the next guy, and was finally starting to feel it.

    No big deal...at the end of the day, there is now way you can criticize the move afterwards considering how well it turned out and how well Deke played. And I certainly am not arguing he should have put Yao back in sooner. I just don't know why he took him out in the first place.
     
  14. zhao1109

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    Yao played solid defense in the first half with 9 rbs. first 6 mins all team just like crap, including yao ming and TMAC. Yao made two stupid TOs and TMAC also. but they scores 8 pts and saved the team. I think Mavs ran out of gas after that and that' why we can have a good 4th.
    :D
     
  15. Rockets2K

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    Possibly cause that was right around the time he normally takes him out if he started the quarter? Actually, it was a little early...he seems to let Yao play around 8 minutes adn then rests him...but that was only 7:10 into the half.

    anyway...it is a moot point...putting Deke in sparked the defensive intensity that put the game totally out of reach, adn as such...I cant argue with the decision.
     
  16. langal

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    You should try the Debate and Discussion board. People ther get bashed for being a "neocon" or "commie lib" for just saying hello.
     
  17. langal

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    Moot point and a good point.

    We should be extremely happy that we have a guy like Mutombo on the bench. It sure makes center substitutions a lot easier. With 15-20 minutes, he can play with a lot more energy and doesn't have to worry about foul troubles.

    Now if we can only meld them into one 2-headed 7'6" defensive/offensive/rebounding monster ...
     
  18. JayZ750

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    Actually, I'm still a little dissapointed we haven't seen them play together at all.

    THey would rightfully be a very unathletic front-court, but given both can be very effective at times, against the right competition, I think it could work.

    I'm guessing the main reason is probably just familiarity with the plays. I doubt either Yao or Deke have ever come anywhere close to running the play as the 4 man.
     
  19. sabonis

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    Eh, I think it would cause a lot of foul trouble on one, the other, or both. I'm sure thats why Van Gundy hasn't done it. However, I would be all for it, for that would be a funny thing to behold.

    Stuart
     
  20. DeAleck

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    In this year's playoffs, when we meet the Spurs, we will probably see Deke on Duncan and Yao on Rasho. Of course, JVG will keep it secret and use it when necessary.
     

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