[Chron] No extensions for Thabeet, T-Will, Flynn, Hill

getting an elite player through trade? you got be kidding me. morey has been trying many many many times since he got his job. he collected all assets and expiring contracts. he came back with empty hands.

 

No, they won't.

 

Thank the skies.

 

whoops, i knew he was undrafted but was too lazy to mention it. Dragic is also a 2nd rounder . We also have a bunch fo late first rounders. Our team basically has no lotto picks who contribute regularly except Patterson.

 

I am not sure how this is a "large indictment" on Morey

All of these guys were DRAFTED by other "regimes" and had a chance there and did not produce, if anything Morey took a low risk high reward chance on all of these guys and none of them showed no promise - I mean if anyone ONE of these guys showed any sort of promise or development I am sure management would have easily picked up that players option since as Morey has said several times the best type of contracts in the league are "superstars who are worth the max contracts and rookie contracts" since those players will always be underpaid.

The only guy I would say got the short end was Flynn who has shown some talent but injuries and a poor coach/system in Minnesota hurt his chances. But With Dragic and Lowry here there was probably no real way Flynn was going to break that PG rotation. But Flynn is still a scoring PG and probably would be a good fit off the bench for a lot of teams but not as a starter IMO.

If any of these guys, Thabeet, Hill, Williams pan out elsewhere I would say its because the Rockets, Grizzles, Knicks and Nets all passed on them and they used that dismissal as motivation to fulfill their potential. Otherwise all those guys had their chances here to work and break the rotation and could not at all. Hill LOST his starting job that was gift wrapped for him because last year he couldnt beat out a 6'6 guy at center, Thabeet only gets in during blowouts, and Williams had a rookie beat him out as a starter.

Yeah so I dont think anyone of these guys actually becoming decent let alone good is an indictment on Morey

 

Guess this means Morey has a ton of expirings to work with this trade deadline. Cool.

 

I can see your point, but if they develop elsewhere and we failed to develop them here, while we controlled them, it would look poorly upon our teams ability to develop.

TWill in particular looks like he might cost us our lottery pick, which in the end may be Morey's worst deal.

DD

 

I think that pick is lotto protected.

 

Not at all.

If the players had success on our team, that means the previous team (Nets, Knicks etc.) developed their talent poorly.

But if these lottery players did not have success on their previous 2 teams (and for some of them, did not have success with the previous 3 coaches) and finally had success on their third team (which I doubt would happen), that means they finally got their act together. That speaks more about their own character than Morey's incapability.

In fact if any of these guys have success in their next team, it's hard to argue that it's because their previous teams failed to develop them properly considering the fact that these guys have shown nothing but lack of focus, fire and passion.

 

100% lotto protected. I believe it becomes a 2nd rounder if not given within the next 5 years. Something like that.

 

Feigen: No '09er Extensions

(edit by Admin -- duplicate thread, but merged so that we could include the poll by IzakDavid13)

 

And the world makes sense again. Finally some common sense.

 

Yep, all those assets that Morey got turned out to not be assets after all, just other peoples junk.

DD

 

All busts. Not worth roster spots. Release them all. Resign the guys who are worth the roster spot. IE. Lee, Dragic, guys in our rotations. Draft more players to fill those spots left empty by Thabeet, Hill, Flynn, and whatever..

Bring back Montajunas to replace Hills spot from overseas, draft another guy, bring Morris to replace Twill. Easy. Out with the useless and move on to the younger who can still prove themselves to go with the already proven.

 

Time for Greg Smith?

 

After trade deadline if we don't need their contract monies to match salaries.

DD

 

Problem with player development??? Brooks, Landry, and Lowery all developed beyond expectations.

The TWill pick we traded was lottery protected.

Like many posters have previously stated, low risk, high reward.

 

Here is more info about the pick we traded for TWill.

 

Morey already had two elite players when he got his job. His job was to fill the roster with quality role players for contention.

This is technically the first year without a star on the roster.

Pau Gasol is an elite player, which should tell you that in principle, it is possible to trade for an elite player.

 

I think these guys had enough opportunities. You give them a few tries. Then when they dont develop properly you let them start over right away through trade or drafting replacements.

If they go on to do something elsewhere? By now its a unexpected surprise for them and they are better for this experience. The idea is if you have guys like Donatus Montajunas, Marcus Morris, or guys on the waiver wire of similar skill to be given the chance to replace them. Then you can move on in that case. That seems to be the case with the Rockets who are deep enough with some guys waiting overseas and in the D league who also need real NBA minutes that some of these guys might be wasting.