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[Chron] No extension for Brooks (deadline passes)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Nov 2, 2010.

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Should Brooks have gotten an extension?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    79.2%
  1. J-Man

    J-Man Member

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    Good........

    Good.........
     
  2. thetatomatis

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    No. Hasnt proven anything yet for the contract I am sure he wants. When this season is done he can come down to Earth about how good his playing abilities are. Especially for how bad he plays on defense. Very middle of the pack sort of player. Kind of in the same realm as Mo Williams for the Cavaliers. Less defense and passing. Trade bait at best with him eventually. No allstars. No Championships with that kind of defense. Lowry is either the future or his replacement in the trade is.
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    AB was not offered an extension, simply because he is not the type of player who deserves it. He is not a player you can build your team around, but rather a component of a contending team. His 20/5 stat line was a fluke caused by being the best player left last season and the position he was put in. Any team that depends on AB as the best player will end up in the lottery. It was only due to the quality of the entire team, that the Rockets ended up so close to making the playoffs.

    Like always, I find it hilarious how many people can't get past 20 PPG and 5 APG and do not look past further to uncover the truth that AB is really not that great of a player. His points are a result of his only serviceable quality, the ability to score. His dime number is decent, but not at the TO cost it comes with. Sure his TO decreased when Martin joined; that is simply the result of having another scorer on the team. Point is, AB is stupid and it shows. As for his defense, I cannot believe that for a guy with his quickness that he cannot do a better job staying in front of opponents and getting a hand in the face for every shot, darting around set screens, and pilfer the passing lanes. I can accept his bad D in the post against bigger PG's due to his small and slight body, but at least stay with your guy on the perimeter.

    Contract extensions are a way to secure players, usually those that are players teams can build around as well as a privilege for upgrading a legally signed contract. Posters on CF can b**** all they want about how this is disrespectful and drivers away other players, but hey if this was Durant or Melo, it would be a totally different story. This is Aaron frigging Brooks we are talking about, like any other NBA star will give a damn about him. It was only because T-Mac was still considered by many as top tier that some NBA players may notice. If he was treated like this today in his current condition, you think anyone besides him and his pathetic fanboys would give a damn?

    If AB does turn out to be unable to put this behind him or fails to improve at least on D, either he or Martin will have to go before the deadline as neither would be willing to come off the bench. My money is on AB over Martin as Martin fits Morey's bill much more as an efficient scoring. If that is the only thing he can do, might as well make it efficient, something AB obviously has not learned yet. Now if AB is willing to come off the bench like Ginobli did and offer a spark off the bench to torch the secondary, that would be even better. We all know he won't though.
     
  4. leebigez

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    Batum can't sign an extension yet either. I thought my words were clear, but maybe not. I haven't seen the backup get a deal before the starter. Hill didn't get a deal before parker. Mason Jr wasn't extended before manu. Moochie wasn't making 3 times what francis was making.Milsap was paid less than boozer even if they weren't going to extend Boozer. It doesn't matter because in the nba, you're performing for every club, not just the current club. Brooks will get paid just as someone offered mle money to lowry. The rockets at the end of the season before free agency can still offer a deal. Maybe they will,maybe they won't, but we will see. I've called the Kings his 10m per destination and I think we will see.
     
  5. Seth

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    I think not giving extensions is a great move for the organization.
    First, we already have Martin under contract and Brooks-Martin are yet to work effectivelly. Yao is a big questionmark as of now and untill we realise what he can do and what he wants we have to be carefull.
    Like it or not, we already have a very good PG signed (Lowry) and Brooks is, without an extension, still a great asset if paired up with a couple of expirings, which we have.
    Actually Brooks is a lot more tradeable without an extension than with it. First, because the team that wants him doesn´t have that complicated clause that extended players have to match salary, and second because while being restricted teams know that if they want him they can always match.
    Plus, pairing him up with Jeffries, Battier or both gives us the chance to choose what we want in return in terms of contract´s size, we can choose from players from 2 millions to 14 millions.
    And the most important thing, not extending a player his age gets you to see his character. If he is a real deal, he will be wise and play for the team, he will focus on being needed.
    If he is just dumb, he´ll try to rack up stats and end up subbing Lowry, Rox should be wise to trade him ASAP if that´s the way he chooses.
    Scola played his ass off and earned his extension. Brooks has to do the same.
    It´s true that maybe offering brooks a Lowry type deal would be great, lets say 6 millions more than Lowry´s. But Brooks would have felt lowbailed that way.
    Leting them go into restricted free agency always helps to let some players come down to earth.
    Brooks saying that he is mad because he didn´t get the extension tells me that maybe he is overrating himself a little bit, and a reality check might help him correct that.
     
  6. highlander3128

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    If money is the most important thing in his freaking mind, then trade his ass.

    We need people to play basketball here. If all he wants is money, he better be off to the Wall Street right away.
     
  7. ApuN

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    One year doth not a career make...
     
  8. mugrakers

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    right... through 3 games... brooks has never had assist numbers that high... probably not even in college or highschool... or middle school... or when he was shooting till he missed.
     
  9. SuperBeeKay

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    Brooks is now a trade asset.
     
  10. jevjnd

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    You've been brilliant recently and this is what I've been saying all along. No superstar is going to want to come here only to get low-balled later in his career when he's not as good as what he once was. Sure Riley may not be the best "asset manager," but what happened when Mourning retired and wanted to come back? He got a ring with Miami, and Riley took him back. He even stuck with Tim Hardaway for far too long while Morey would have "flipped" him. Players notice, people notice, and the last time I checked, players are people who have concerns over their futures and won't choose such an organization if they don't value them as people and players. To add on top of all of this, this team will never have cohesion if we keep "flipping" players. I don't like where this franchise is headed with this type of "people management: as DaDakota stated. You can go ahead and tell me why I'm not as smart as Morey, and while that may not be true, you can already see what's resulting if you take a close look at Brooks' situation. Before anyone says that it's too much to spend $15 million on two point guards who have flaws because we could get a more effective one for that price, that's only if any of the ones that are worth $15 million actually wanted to come here to get treated like used cars by a used car salesman. Morey is intelligent and I love what he does in terms of analysis and all of those things, but I see exactly what DaDakota is seeing.

     
  11. Shroopy2

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    Perhaps. But then the known of Mike Conley signing for almost $10 mil a season is NOT better than the unknown.

    Why is it okay for another team to have those concerns over player's leverage, but the team that currently has the player CAN'T have those SAME concerns?

    Seems here the known is better than the unknown when the other person is liable by officially shooting themselves in the foot, instead of you doing it.

    To be fair you did say you can benefit YOURSELF by paying under market value with an "early bird special". So it can work both positively and negatively.



    I see it like putting an expensive ring on your current very nice girlfriend, when you have your eyes set on a possible couple super models out there. Except even if you don't like your disgruntled girlfriend not giving it up, your girlfriend can't stray because you have her under restricted control. Maybe on the open market you have to get her an even BIGGER ring, but at least you kept your options open.
     
  12. jevjnd

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    I love the emphatic hyperbole, but the unfortunate part is that people play basketball to make money. That's what Brooks is doing and that's what Lowry did when he cashed in after not getting the extension and getting paid more than he probably would have otherwise. There's a time to stubbornly stick to your cards and your "policy" as Morey has done by not extending players, but there's also a time to not do it as well, if he calls it the same way every time he's going to be predictable in the market anyway, and people are going to keep bidding higher on our players, just as they did with Lowry in the off-season.

     

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