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[Chron] Morey hope to atleast get a starting center by trade deadline

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Ramathorn006, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. ThaShark316_28

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    that ether...
     
  2. J.R.

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    May have been already posted but...Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports: Trade winds could be blowing(It's a video)

    Lets start with NO. They've been hot and cold. Paul and West could leave in next 18 months. Would they be better to deal them now?

    Decision NO is grappling with is West. He can opt out and is planning to. They talked about an extension with West but offer is low. West thinks he can get 10 mil on the market. Not gonna get that in NO now. Difficult decision now is...West is playing great. Value hasnt been higher in last few years than it is right now. With him, they can get in the playoffs and maybe scare someone in the first round. Without him, what they may have to do is get something for him and yet figure out a way to replace him with someone who will help Paul in the short-term. They're not moving Paul until they have to and thats not until at least next season.


    Houston shopping injured Yao Ming. They are also hoping to land Carmelo Anthony. What should we expect from Houston at the deadline?

    They along with New Orleans, are one of the most aggresive teams out there. They have picks, the big Yao Ming expiring contract which they're hoping is going to be attractive to teams. They're looking to improve talent with good veteran players. If Nash came available, Houston would be very interested. They stayed on the Carmelo front but Melo doesnt want to sign an extension in Houston even though Houston was willing to take him on as a rental and try to convince him to re-sign, I dont think thats gonna happen. They're on the prowl. They've talked to Chicago about some smaller deals. Bulls very interested in Lee and have been all year. He's a favorite of Tom Thibodeau. They're looking at small and big deals. I think they'll be real active at the deadline.

    Blazers leaning heavily on Aldridge. Have some vets in guys like Miller and Camby. Should they ship some of those guys out and look towards the future?

    Probably should. Problem is the owne Paul Allen who may not want to rebuild. With Roy's injury, who will be in and out of the lineup at best and at worst, have his career curtailed, they're on the hook with his money. They're can continue to build with Aldridge but with Pryzbilla, Camby, Miller, they can move those guys and maybe get some younger guys and start rebuilding as opposed to trying to hang in there and get in the playoffs. Nate McMillian in the last year of his deal and will probably become a FA and look elsewhere and maybe resign there but issue is what the owner wants. The basketball people, GM Rich Cho, are ready to start rebuilding but they got to get the owner on board with that..

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nba/24151910;_ylt=AkSW0X1_nPMs8We7rBZV3ki8vLYF#nba/24151910
     
  3. W22_STREAK

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    All hype.

    Can we just all agree that there will be no Carmelo, no Nash, no Granger for the Rockets at the trade deadline?

    It's probably going to be, Battier for James Johnson to get us below the lux tax line.
    :)
     
  4. FanSince93

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    This.

    And fans here will start chanting Morey is a Genius. Well, he is a genius - Fooling so many fans for so many years for nothing.
     
  5. avb

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    Also don't forget - someone will post the obligatory pic of Morey turned back looking at the camera. Then other Morey fans will point out that he works diligently, is a great negotiator when it comes to trades, and its not his fault that this team lacks a superstar or has any direction.
     
  6. J.R.

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    Nothing new I suppose but from Chris Sheridan's chat:

    John (Austin)
    The Rockets have said that they will make a move before the deadline, anything brewing?

    Chris Sheridan (2:29 PM)
    Aaron Brooks makes my Most Likely to Be Traded list, along with Rip Hamilton, Troy Murphy, Carmelo Anthony and Eddy Curry. They are as active as ever, but trade pipeline leaguewide still being plugged by MeloDrama.




    So ''everyone'' is saying Morey/Rockets are active, let's see what get's done. Not that being active guarantees a trade but... ;) :p
     
  7. BimaThug

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    Don't you know??? That's just the same ol' P.R. machine that Morey keeps running.

    Sincerely,
    [Posters who seemingly don't understand how NBA trades work]

    :rolleyes: :p
     
  8. GATER

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    "Never equate activity with productivity" - John Wooden

    :p
     
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    So are you saying it is his fault?

    Morey has a great track record thus far, thats where "Morey fans" have their feet planted, unlike posters like you and FanSince93 who are either plain haters or are needing a reality check.
     
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    Touche! :grin:

    But my point still stands. It is widely held that Morey is doing seemingly everything he can to try and get a deal done. This point has been made by countless news sources, not the Rockets' P.R. Department.

    If there is no (significant) trade to discuss on February 24, it will most likely not be for lack of effort (or skill, for that matter) on Morey's part.
     
  11. GATER

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    We'll have to disagree on the source and effectiveness of the PR.

    However, I've never disputed the effort on Morey's part. I, for one, take a dimmer view of the possibilities given what can be put on the trade table.

    I believe you yourself have highlighted the benefits of standing pat in an article about letting Yao expire. There are pluses to being inactve if you can't get the deal you want. And I'm less than optimistic they can get the deal they want.
     
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    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-02-14/labor-uncertainty-limiting-nba-trade-possibilities
     
  13. megastahr

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    In all reality...

    If we want cousins we can get cousins I believe. Just I think it will come down to the deadline and what our other options are…if we cant get Gasol…Gortat, Asik…or someone of that nature at a good price.

    You would think that we could offer Brooks (who they want) and either T will or budinger and our 1st round pick next year. If there is no other trade brewing we could also include yao mings expiring and take on salary to let them have an insane amount of cap space next year… or use a trade exception in a separate deal.

    We already gave them Taylor as a favor…I think this is a very good offer and extreme overpay…Does anyone think the kings turn something like this down?
     
  14. BimaThug

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    You know, though, every time they talk about teams being shy to make big trades, they never talk about big trades that involve expiring contracts.

    For instance, teams with cap room or trade exceptions should not have such hesitance to trade for contracts like those of Yao, Battier or Jeffries. And no other large contracts from Houston are likely to get traded this year, anyway. So, I'm inclined to believe that such news is not directly applicable to a team like Houston.

    Still, it may be a hindrance in that other teams can't get a second deal done that would open them up to trade for an expiring contract from the Rockets.
     
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    I think trading for Kevin Martin was a mistake, and this is one of the trades that Morey defenders use as him doing a great job. Martin in Sacramento was a player that puts up nice stats on a losing team. He can't defend or create for others.

    The Trevor Ariza for Courtney Lee trade wasn't a good trade either. I'm not an Ariza fan, but he played more minutes and was a bigger factor for the Rockets than what Courtney Lee is doing this year. And again, last year's team was better as their record shows. The New York Knicks trade got us Jordan Hill and a draft pick in 2012 (the right to swap picks this year is worthless). This trade hasn't improved our front line or front line, so we're just hoping we can make something happen with that 2012 draft pick. Then there's Terrence Williams, at least we didn't give up much to get him but so far it doesn't look like we've gotten much either as he's just rotting away on the bench.

    So the way I look at it, the trades have made this team worse than last year (and Yao wasn't a factor last year either). We don't have any direction on how to rebuild. We have a collection of 'assets' that doesn't seem like other teams our banging down our doors for, and we're stuck in mediocrity.

    So where's Morey's "great track record thus far"? Am I missing something? I do hope he can pull something off before the trade deadline that makes us competitive, but until that happens I don't see why people are labeling him a genius.
     
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    or what about draft pick scola and brooks for landry and cousins... that would be awesome for the kings right?
     
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    I'd like to think so, but I can't help but think Sacramento would want Morey to take on Beno Udrih('s contract).

    And we'd probably need a new destination for Landry or at least one of our other bigs. If Landry were shipped to a 3rd team, that team would need reasonable assurance of re-signing him, because they'd have to give us a decent 1st rounder.
     
  18. megastahr

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    I am just saying we have the ability to get him...He could fill two rolls at once. Our go to score, and defensive big.

    If you cant get melo. Id be be very interested in a

    Lowry/Ish
    Martin/Lee
    Twill (whoevers left)
    Patterson/Hill
    Cousins/Hayes/Miller

    Line up...

    That is a scrapy defensive..hussling powerful team. I will say ever since the draft I thought T will would be the perfect fit along side brooks. A great passing dendering 2/3 with a sharpshooting pentetrating PG.

    Then rotating lee lowry I think it would be as good as any 1 2 punch in the nba...at the wing. Thinking about that I would have had to moved martin for Gortat.
     
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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
     
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    Yes, you are missing that Aaron Brooks was a solid player last year and now completely sucks. Anybody longing for Trevor Ariza is nuts.
     

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