[Chron] McNair expected to keep Kubiak, hire Phillips

Woah! How the heck can a 5 year coach who has never made the playoff, who only has had 1 winning season, manage to keep his job on the year labeled as "anything less than the playoffs is a failure"?

Ok, time to ask, what kinda pictures does Kubiak have on McNair.

Sorry to say Texan fans, prepared to miss the playoffs again next year. A fan base should only accept failure so many times (3 max imo). Kubiak has failed 5!!! 5 times people!!! How can you sit there and keep saying "next year is our year"?

Enough is enough. Get rid of this loser. Nice offensive coordinator he maybe but he is not a winning head coach. Period.

 

My reaction to the news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

 

Where he was just decent. Average D his first year, bad D in his second, below average in his 3rd.

And then it dropped down to 20th. It went back up to 5th the next year but dropped back down to 22nd the year after that.

His 2nd most consistent tenure.

And in his 2nd year, it dropped back down to 32nd. Yeah, he was promoted to interim HC, but that was only for 3 games. That was still his defense and it sucked balls.

His most consistent tenure.

I'm not saying Phillips isn't a good coach, but he's not one of these guys that produces great defenses year after year. They yo-yo. He took over DC duties to go along with being HC in Dallas in 2009. That team was 9th in ypg and 2nd in ppg. This year, they're 23rd and 31st respectively.

He's OK, maybe good, but I wouldn't go above that.

I think John Fox, who's about to be fired, has a more consistent track record. I'd much rather try to get him in here than Wade, but he isn't from Houston and his daddy didn't coach for the Oilers so he might not even get a phone call.

 

Hmmm, maybe McNair's just leaking this out there so Kubiak feels safe and he won't be trying to coach for a job this Sunday and be forward-thinking by trying to lose in order to get a higher pick?

fingers crossed.

 

To a man when the wheels were coming off this Cowboys' season, each and every Cowboys player praised Phillips for the way he treated them like men and was a "player's coach". Then they went out Sunday after Sunday and proceeded to quit on him. Sure, Jerry Jones had screwed up the talent on this team but it was Phillips who had total control over the defense. Their defense team clearly went into reverse this year because whatever he was doing did not work and worse, Wade seemed powerless and incapable of fixing what was wrong. So now we are expected to believe that he can work wonders with another set of underachievers. Yeah, RIGHT! Really looking forward to the next edition of the Dumb And Dumber franchise: Dumb And Dumber III: When Gary Met Wade.

 

Fox isn't going to take a coordinator's gig, any more than Cowher or Chucky would. He's going to go home and wait for another head coaching job to open up. And he's probably going to get it, sooner or later. I just saw a report that he and Chucky are the top two candidates for the Cleveland HC job if Mangini gets shown the door.

He's coached his team to a Super Bowl and an NFC Championship game, and before this year (when he and everybody else knew the team and no talent and would suck, BTW) he had a pretty damn good record.

Personally, in my dream world I think he might make a good back up plan for the Texans if they fired Kubiak and went after Cowher.

 

how is it that Wade Phillips is going to turn anything around?

everywhere he`s gone, he hasn`t won.

 

Not a fan because of the obviously glaring incapabilities Kubiak still possesses, and also because of the fact that Wade freakin' Phillips will be our fall back option. So, basically, we have no fall back option.

 

HoustonTexans.com has "permabanned" me and my "basic" ip.....lmao.

See you, Sunday. I'm driving in from Austin for the "rally"...I don't care if it's me and three other fervent dbags...I'll be there.

Will have my flip video cam and camera for pics....will post.

 

From the team message board...?

 

Yup...my handle there was "HoustonPride"....been a member since 2006 or so. No longer....in all fairness I DID ask them to remove my account. lol

Seriously, though. My wife just gave me the go ahead to head into Houston for the "rally"....if anybody wants to ride with from Austin on Sunday morning: I've got 5 seats in a late model sedan....let's do this. We can make a day out of it.

Please note: this is NOT fun for me. This is NOT what I had in mind 9 f..king years ago when Mr. McNair brought the NFL back to Houston. But if THIS is what we have to work with...let's f..king do it. Who's with me? Buehler? Buehler????? Anybody?

 

Seriously, guys.....I know there are more than me and DD in the Austin area. I am ABSOLUTELY heading in to be a part of the "rally".....anybody in the Austin area want to ride in with me? We can do our thing, watch the game at a local bar....get some lunch...I don't know. Whatever, let me know if you're interested...otherwise, I'll be doing this alone. lol

 

John Fox is the perfect example of a fired "retread" that I would prefer to see what he can do with a new team than what our current retread can do with the team he's already failed with many times.

The idea that the Texans are screwed if they fire Kubiak and don't get Cowher baffles me.

 

it should baffle you because it is absolute stupidity. as is any argument that favors keeping kubiak. there are some stupid people in this thread and if you are one of those advocating keeping this joke of a head coach then you can suck my sack.

 

And I know that the Giants would like to hire him if they get rid of Coughlin, another "retread" I'd take over Kubiak.

They probably leaked the names of Sherman, Calhoun, and Jackson to Warner to make the fans afraid of what would happen if we didn't land Cowher.

 

Wait, wait, wait...

You're adocating John Fox???? The guy's been a head coach 9 years and he's posted 7 or 8-win seasons in five of those 9 years. And he's about to put a bow on a 2-14 season. That's six seasons with 8 or fewer wins. His SB appearance is the very definition of an outlier.

John Fox is *the* definition of hiring a retread that failed at their previous stop. No way on him. He's been a mediocre head coach.

No one here is advocating it. You're angry at exactly no one. But every indication we have thus far is that the team is going to keep him. Thus, the discussion starts from there. I mean, we could start a thread about how the Texans should trade for Tom Brady - but what's the point?

I think keeping Kubiak and Rick Smith is *really* dumb; I don't get it at all. But I do think, if that's the decision, that bringing in a big-time DC isn't a terrible plan B. Though keeping Rick Smith undermines the decision. I think out of everyone, Smith's continued employment is the most bewildering. At least with Kubiak you can find *some* positives. I can't think of one positive thing Smith has done.

 

They don't need a "great" defense. The need a competent one. He's improved, in his first year, every defense he's inherited as a defensive coordinator.

He's not my first choice by a long shot. I've been trumpeting Marv Lewis for weeks. But all this vitriolic "loser" talk is vastly overblown, IMO.

 

So has Kubiak - in fact, he has been far more mediocre, and he's proven his mediocrity with this team. I'd much rather try different mediocrity to see if they can improve things than stick with the known mediocrity.

I'm not saying I'd take Fox over Cowher or Gruden or Dungy or whatever. But I'd sure as hell take him over Kubiak. At least Fox has proven capable of basic head coaching duties like clock management, getting teams to play a full game, etc.

The fundamental issue is that people are overrating Kubiak in trying to discount all the other options out there. In making it seem like there'd be some huge negative of losing Kubiak in favor of other mediocre options, you have to argue that Kubiak is something better than mediocre. The problem is that he's not.

 

If Kubiak were fired tomorrow and some other team was doing a coaching search and had Kubiak and Fox as their two options, they would pick Fox every time barring extenuating circumstances of some sort.

The idea that the Texans would be scared to fire Kubiak because they might get stuck with someone like Fox is utter nonsense. Even if you don't think he's better than Kubiak, he's certainly not any worse.