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[Chron] McNair expected to keep Kubiak, hire Phillips

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Dec 30, 2010.

  1. Rocket River

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    . . . there will probably be NO Superbowl winning Coaches available at all.

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  2. Rocket River

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    Let's See who maybe available. . . NEXT YEAR or the YEAR AFTER

    January 26, 1986 - - XX - Mike Ditka -- retired
    January 25, 1987 - - XXI - Bill Parcells -- retired
    January 31, 1988 - - XXII - Joe Gibbs (2)
    January 22, 1989 - - XXIII - Bill Walsh (3)
    January 28, 1990 - - XXIV - George Seifert -- retired
    January 27, 1991 - - XXV - Bill Parcells (2) -- will probably have a job or be retired
    January 26, 1992 - - XXVI - Joe Gibbs (3) -- retired
    January 31, 1993 - - XXVII - Jimmy Johnson -- retired
    January 30, 1994 - - XXVIII - Jimmy Johnson -- retired
    January 29, 1995 - - XXIX - George Seifert -- retired
    January 28, 1996 - - XXX - Barry Switzer --- ??? Seriously?
    January 26, 1997 - - XXXI - Mike Holmgren -- Will be Coaching
    January 25, 1998 - - XXXII - Mike Shanahan --- MAYBE AVAILABLE
    January 31, 1999 - - XXXIII - Mike Shanahan --- MAYBE AVAILABLE
    January 30, 2000 - - XXXIV - Dick Vermeil - retires
    January 28, 2001 - - XXXV - Brian Billick --- maybe available
    February 3, 2002 - - XXXVI - Bill Belichick -- Will be Coaching
    January 26, 2003 - - XXXVII - Jon Gruden -- Will be Coaching
    February 1, 2004 - - XXXVIII - Bill Belichick -- Will be Coaching
    February 6, 2005 - - XXXIX - Bill Belichick -- Will be Coaching
    February 5, 2006 - - XL - Bill Cowher -- Will be Coaching
    February 4, 2007 - - vXLI - Tony Dungy --- available but not interested
    February 3, 2008 - - XLII - Tom Coughlin --- MAYBE AVAILABLE
    February 1, 2009 - - XLIII - Mike Tomlin -- Will be Coaching
    February 7, 2010 - - XLIV - Sean Payton -- Will be Coaching


    Rocket River
     
  3. desihooper

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    I live in Dallas, and that's one of my concerns as well. To me, it boils down to one of those Owner Jones vs. GM Jones arguments. Everyone loves Jerry Jones as owner of the Cowboys because he has a burning desire to win and win big. Nobody really cares for GM Jerry, because he's the one who can't help himself add one more volatile, shiny toy to the mix to keep his team in the news. I think the same thing goes for Wade. Most people probably don't care for Coach Wade Phillips, but somehow, when he moves down a rung to Defensive Coordinator, he's done ok for himself. Some times, Scottie will never be Michael, or something like that.

    My other big concern, while the Cowboys were falling deeper and deeper into the abyss this year, everyone was questioning where "Coach Fix Its" defense went. Somehow, teams got the bead on when/where the Cowboys were blitzing from and ripped them to shreds because of it (well, everyone but Kubiak, Dennison, et. al.). Hopefully, when he can singularly focus on the defense, he can bring back the vaunted Phillips 3-4 (or whatever) a la Capers in Green Bay.

    Fingers crossed hoping this works out for us.
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    Oh, yeah - IF you keep Kubiak, you cannot keep Smith. In fact, I'd argue keeping Smith is infinitely more egregious than keeping Kubiak. So this would actually be my plan C.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    Oh, yeah. But I would argue that's true of virtually *any* head coach. It seems people here are giving the HC the QB treatment - a little too much of the praise/blame at the expense of the rest of the team.

    There are very few successful head coaches, especially presently, that are doing so without big-time assistants and/or coordinators on staff. I've documented these examples countless times.

    What I think the team can do - and, again: I'm not arguing they should keep Kubiak; I'm discussing this from the perspective that that decision has already been made - is correct what they very obviously did wrong, which is turnover much too much of the organization to Kubiak. There's not a strong, experienced, dissenting (and I would argue competent) presence in the front office, the coordinators - all of them, even Shannahan - also have lacked experience and past success.

    IF you're going to keep Kubiak, give him a strong general manager and force him to hire strong coordinators and I think - *think* - that'll go a long way to fixing the problems.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I don't understand this logic.
    All signs seems to indicate that RS [aka Rick RUBBER STAMP Smith] is not the decision maker on talent . .. KUBIAK IS.
    RS mainly just crosses the I's and Dots the T's

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    I am officially a Texans pessimist now. We are doomed for the foreseeable future.

    We may even make it to the playoffs at some point with this regime, but there is no way we're going to win playoff games with Kubiak's boneheaded-ness.

    Then, when he ultimately gets fired, Wade Phillips will be given a shot, and he is just as much a boneheaded dufus of a HC as Gary. I love them both as coordinators, but they are not head coaches.

    I hope they prove me wrong, but I have a feeling we're going to regret not going after one of these big name coaches.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    Every team has 3 and outs. But here, when that happens, it far more often than not leads to the other team turning them into touchdowns over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Can you imagine gameplanning and/or playing under those circumstances? You don't think that has *any* impact?

    I think the offense absolutely has some issues. But to claim it's 80% of the problem (while the defense is just 10%) is, IMO, beyond silly.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    no . .it is 80% of the Team . . not the problem

    my point is. . . even if you load share
    move the defense to a position of being more responsible for success
    it won't matter
    because they will still be an 8-8 team

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  10. v3.0

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    I've been hearing from the radio that Gary picks the offensive personnel, Smith picks the defensive side. If that's the case, Rick needs to go.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    I was hearing that Kubiak overrode Rick . . and got Kareem even though Rick did not want him. . . . same thing with Amobi.

    *shrug* Maybe they don't even know

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  12. Hey Now!

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    They did comedy skits???? But usually sports radio - especially in Dallas - is so serious and stuffy. That's just not like them. Plus: What credibility. I mean, if Gordon Keith thinks you're a joke then, by golly, you're a joke.

    Wade's record strictly as a defensive coordinator is pretty doggone good:
    * Buddy Ryan hired him to run his defense in Philadelphia;
    * He took the 22nd-ranked Bronco defense in '88 to 3rd his first year;
    * He took the 17th-ranked Bill defense to 9th within 2 years;
    * He turned the 30th-ranked Falcon defense into 19th his one full-year there;
    * He turned the 27th-ranked Charger defense into the 10th-best defense within 3 years.

    If not Phillips, they undoubtedly need a guy with his track record.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    Then it bears mentioning Kubiak's one non-RS draft was, by leaps and bounds, his best.

    I disagree. The Texans have been beaten this year by Mark Sanchez, David Garrard and Tim Tebow on the final drive of the game. Two of those were "stop 'em and you win" scenarios. That's a very probable, highly likely 3-game swing right there and doesn't even account for the *other* 10 games in which they gave up 24+ points.

    The defense is historically bad.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    We will See.
    If Kubiak comes back . . I predict no more than a 10-6 Season
    [with a weak schedule]
    more than likely a 8-8

    This team has 12-4 talent . .. easy

    Rocket River
     
  15. studogg

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    Ric, please allow me to jump in for my alter ego, as it seems we both agree whole heartedly in this instance.

    is the defense historically bad? absolutely.

    has rick smith been responsible for these drafts? absolutely.

    has rick smith been equally as bad on f/a acquistions? not as miserable but yes, very bad.

    has the offense been better than the defense? yes, but lets break that down a bit further.

    when in the 2 minute offense, the team has been unstoppable. When in traditional playcalling mode, the offense has been abysmal.

    Now I'll ask you the question. What is the primary difference in the two sets.


    hint,

    if you answered kubiak not calling the plays and matt schaub calling them.. you win a chicken dinner.


    summation. we have just as bad an offensive coordinator as we do defensive. we just have more talent on the offensive side that can overcome it.

    broader point? if the defense is better, by summation, the offense will be in typical play call mode most of the game. what does this equal? close games until the final minutes when we actually let schaub run the offense.

    problem is, we've been in these situations all year long and look what it's gotten us.

    end game.
     
  16. Major

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    Unfortunately, I think that we'll be having this same "keep or fire Kubiak" discussion next year at this time, for the 3rd year in a row. I'm not at all convinced that if you fix the defense, everything else will simply stay the same.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Why should you?
    Remember when all you needed to do was fix the running game . . .
    and everything will fall into place?

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  18. Icehouse

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    If Kubiak stays then I won't be buying any tickets to see the Texans next year. Who is coming with me?
     
  19. Raven

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    Nothing less than an open revolt by the players will get McNair to wake up and do what's necessary to fix his business.
     
  20. Dairy Ashford

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    I don't know what I love more about this post: the self-rebuttal, random bolding or predicting the past from the present, to make a point about the future. You got a "seriously?" and two "maybes" on stuff that happened a decade ago.
     

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