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[CHRON] McGrady: Rockets' success hinges on team, not him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TeamUSA, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. wekko368

    wekko368 Member

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    Yao was under the basket when the ball was being shot. look at the video. when he attempted to get the rebound, he was actually jumping backwards.

    yao did exactly what he was supposed to. when the ball is shot, go to the basket for the rebound. he had his area boxed out. but it was a LONG rebound that forced yao to backpeddle and jump backwards to try to get it. as such, he wasnt able to get much lift, whereas boozer had position and could jump straight up.

    seriously, watch the video again.
     
  2. bbjai

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    dude he got like 0 rebounds all game compared to what Boozer did. So your going to justify how he got so little rebounds in the game as well? Is it really hard to admit that they both sucked total ass that game when the game was on the line (4th quarter) and that your neatly choosing to ignore how little impact Yao had in the 4th quarter?
     
  3. badgerfan

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    If you're talking about McGrady's performance over that series as a whole the critical stat isn't his ppg, it's his fg%. He was below .400 for the whole series.

    As for game 7, I thought both he and Yao did pretty good jobs. Sometimes you just lose.
     
  4. flamingdts

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    I agree with you 50%. The problem is, the whole rockets team refused to shoot and they all choked, so he had to do all the dirty work and shot the most.

    As for game 7. Its either "they both did well" or "t-mac sucked most" in the arguement.

    I think what fans are trying to say here is, why can't we apply what happens to t-mac on Yao as well? The problem is, some fans here reject that idea as an arguement. Yes, its not cool to bring in Yao to the arguement, but its impossible to support our own arguement without proof that T-mac was not the problem in game 7.

    As for wekko. Dude...... Your comments just keep slanting and slanting. You ironically said you don't expect Yao to get a defensive rebound from boozer yet expect t-mac to score on a double team??

    Dude.....
     
  5. Texas Stoke

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    Awesome post. Well said.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    thread closed. i can't defend tmac for his reg. season play, which is summed up here. even the biggest tmac jockers can't.

    but if people don't understand that tracy always steps up in the playoffs and play all-world basketball, then i don't know what to say. just look at his play.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    u can say that about yao, considering if he faces single coverage and getting at least 10 boards a game.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    he was NOT under the basket. he backpeddled ONE step. but it was basically a JUMPBALL. boozer was right next to him and he didn't even have a finger on him.

    and boozer didn't even really get the rebound, he TIPPED it.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    both had A LOT of impact offensively. tmac scored 8-9 pts in the 4th. yao also did his part offensively with 29 pts and 11 ft attempts. both guys did more than enough offensively. we played our best game offensively.

    we lost on the boards. everyone with sane eyes can see that. yao getting 6 rebounds while okur AND boozer got 11 and 14 rebounds are unacceptable. our highest rebounder that game was freakin' juwan howard with 7 and he played 27 minutes. for god sakes, how the hell is that going to happen?

    for us to be competitive this series, rebounding is the key again. if we consistently win the rebounding edge, we will win the series. if not, we won't.
     
  10. ibm

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    i agree.

    but physically will he be able to step it up in the p/o this year? i have some serious doubts.

    i'd be his fan once again if he carries us past 1st rd this year.
     
  11. badgerfan

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    I think the whole game 7 thing is a little misleading anyway. If the Rockets had been able to win even one game in Utah it would have never come down to a game 7. They couldn't even come close. What matter is sustained performance over a period of time and that's where I think you can levy some criticism at McGrady.

    The bad part with dragging Yao into the argument is that there are things that T-Mac genuinely needs to work on. Shot selection is one of the biggest. People like to talk about his game ramping up for the playoffs but anybody is going to score if they get enough shot attempts. Scoring 30+ points on .350 shooting just isn't going to get it done.
     
  12. longhornchampno

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    It's sad to see a thread like this to diss our best active player on the team just right before the playoffs start. It's even more sad to see a bunch of **** to try to defend their idol by dissing the other Rockets players. Can these morons all
    learn to support the whole team and stop being a one-player only fan? Beat the Jazzholes!!!
     
  13. longhornchampno

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    Yeah they both didn't play well in the last year playoffs. Now would you please STFU and cheer for the WHOLE team in the coming playoffs? You have devoted all your posts lately to diss one Rocket player in order to support another (your idol). What about just trying to defend your idol without flirting poos at the other Rockets? You only-fans SUCK.
     
  14. BucMan55

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    Because the criticisms are levied at one player's subpar aspect of their performance but glossed over at the other player's subpar aspect. You cant dog one player who had a subpar aspect and give a free pass to the other. Either you look at the overall good play of both players and just accept the outcome, or you criticize the subpar aspect of BOTH. The T-Mac defenders are not picking and choosing. The T-Mac haters are.
     
  15. AntiSonic

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    Stop fighting guys. You know what's worse than McGrady's 0-7 playoff streak? The Rockets losing three straight series to the freaking Jazz. I do not want it to stretch to four.
     
  16. longhornchampno

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    The same argument used by the Yao's fans and they were also called 'only-fans' here and there and everywhere. Where were you to say the problem is because of teh Yao-haters? You come across to me as ultra-hypocritical here.
     
  17. BucMan55

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    I didnt criticize either player for the loss in game 7. I don't criticize the Rockets players, any more than to say they probably should/should not have done that. I have no hatred(nor dissapointment) for anyone in a Rockets uniform. I look at the big picture. I didnt see any Yao haters starting threads and bringing up his lack of a rebounding effort in game 7. I see it with T-Mac ALL the time. So I just want to see it represented fairly.
     
  18. Seth

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    I think more than hate is because of the way T-Mac approaches the game, lately i see him more optimistic at times, but as a leader you must show will to win and T-Mac at times does not, and sometimes he does discourage his teammates, i would love if T-Mac could approach the game as Tim Duncan, who has similar on court body language but always seems to be positive on the game outcome.
     
  19. flamingdts

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    He is similar to Duncan in terms of attitude. What are you getting at? He hasn't discouraged his teammates at all, and if you mean scola (which alot of you guys are confused about), the guy's been laughing and joking with him a lot lately. Did you watch the Suns game?

    He doesn't look like he has the attitude, but he does. Watch his practice interview about playoffs. You can find the interview somewhere in the forums, its been posted by somebody
     
  20. DaRock1

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    I guess we'd have no choice but to blame that on your selective memory.
     

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