it's fine to draw a conclusion, but please use the information accordingly. you were extrapolating. you're like one of those gossip newspapers that take a picture of a male and a female and claim, "they must be going out!" how the hell is the team *completely done* with mcgrady as you stated? and yet everything we've read shows that the team is being extremely careful with tracy's rehab, and will want tracy to play eventually (and as early as possible). the team said he won't even do anything with the team until 11/23, and he has already scrimmaged. the team might still want to trade tracy, but primarily b/c he's old and injury prone. if tracy comes back and drops 25, 5, 5 and plays every game, he'll be resigned with no hesitation. if he struggles, then he's gone. it's as simple as that. the team will only be done with mcgrady once they "starbury/iverson" him.
Out of curiosity, what do you think the difference is between "drawing a conclusion" and "extrapolating"?
pretty simple. i'll give you an example. drawing a conclusion: a patient has a sore throat -> he has a cold/flu extrapolation: a patient has a sore throat -> he has HIV now relate that to mcgrady: drawing a conclusion: rockets say tracy will be out and wants him to rehab more, and only come back when the doctors say his knee is ok -> they're being cautious and want tracy to be 100% when he gets back extrapolation: they don't want him back; they're done with him; they want the team to gel b/c mcgrady hinders the team. it's self-explanatory no?
Not really. Your definition of "extrapolation" is wildly inaccurate. Ever heard of the statistic "per 36 min"? That's an extrapolation. Let's say a player averages 3 minutes per game. As such, his stats will probably be low. If you multiply all his stats by 12, you'd have his theoretical stats if he played 36 minutes (assuming his production remains constant).
Why wouldn't they be very careful with his rehab and cautious about bringing him back? Of course the guy is more valuable as a Rocket or as trade bait if he can actually play. You think if I'm correct and the Rockets are done with him after this season (or when a good trade comes along) they are going to throw him out there and let him explode his knee in a game just for kicks? Come on. You're smarter than this. I do like that you have learned to end your posts pretty much agreeing with the people who just went after. Really, Tmac1, if Tracy returns to All Star status and doesn't miss any games (something he has never done) he is going to get re-signed? You're a genius dude. How much and for how long do you think they will sign him for if he does that? Actually tell us something concrete for once.
He should be questioned, all of us should it is an internet message board. I find it funny the issue of credibililty on here, the credible people are usually the ones that you agree with......it is comedy at it's highest level. Leeb has said he hears Tmac will be resigned, so far, he has been as accurate as the rest of us.....or rather inaccurate..... I do think he knows a lot about the GAME of basketball, but like all of us he likes a certain style of play and fits his arguments into that. For instance, Tmac..... I think he is not a winner because of his attitude, I think Leeb will tell you that players overlook attitude in favor of talent.... But, I could be wrong there. DD
According to ESPN... the Rockets have been aggressively trying to move Tracy since last year...ownersedge.fanball.com/nba/player/598/notes
This link ya'll posted: ownersedge.fanball.com/nba/player/598/notes Yes, just confirms what those of us who aren't suffering short-term memory loss seem to recall. If they do move Tracy, it clearly won't be before December. The team can collect some of that insurance money on his contract to offset some of the dough-re-mi it took to get Budinger and Anderson and Taylor. But the delay in trading Tracy can involve so many things. If we were still after Amare, do we need to see if the guy can play after the detached retina thing? Are we after players who can't be traded til December 15? Are teams looking to see how good/bad they'll be before shrugging their shoulders and saying, We ain't going anywhere, call the Rockets, let's at least save some money before this gets worse? Because I sincerely do not believe one of the potential questions is in Daryl Morey's mind: Do we want to see if Tracy returns to form and how far he might carry us? Because even if Tracy regains the magic touch, he'll still be a half-hearted player at best. In fact, his drive probably erodes with each year, he doesn't have that fire for the game. And that's fine. As long as he doesn't continue to be OUR problem.
DD, it doesn't botherr me people question me. I have a lot of info I never let out cause just like clutch said its hanging guys out to dry. I could care less who is on the the rockets, they're still the rockets and my suppport never waivers. I always hear u talk about tracy noot being a winner and such and I can tell u aside from ariza,none of these guys have won squat. Before they got artest,who was the closest thing we have had to a 3rd guy, what was the rox record without tracy? Now contrast that to minus yao,shane,(rr anyone else. I think that he will be rresigned unless he hass a injury filled disaster of a yr. Nowhere have I said I agree, I would like to dump tracy,yao,battier,and scola and just rebuild the team like portland,utah,and orlando did. Let me ask a question and anyone is free to answer, say the rockets get a chance to get martin from the kings and they have to take nocioni. Yao comes back next yr,scola resigned. Is that team better than port,sa,dall,orl,bos,cle,or la?
This link http://ownersedge.fanball.com/nba/player/598/notes A timeline of Tracy dating back to January 2005. For those suffering from short term memory loss. From his thumb, big toe, back spasms, hip, knees, elbow just to name a few. According to this timeline Tracy hasn't had one full healthy year with the Rox. I give him credit for working hard this off season, but the chances of him getting injured again are very high. That's why we need to dump Tracy for a younger less injury prone player. I wish the best for Tracy, but his act is getting old here. Its time to move on.
It is better than what we have now, and you build a championship team by getting better..... So incremental improvements are great. DD
Your steadfast belief in other posts that the Rox will not only keep but also re-sign Tmac, coupled with this post's "I have a lot of info", gives me pause. I hope Les and Morey are not stupid enough to waste another nickel on McGrady. If they do, it is because they are afraid of not selling any jerseys, here or abroad, and has nothing to do with the future of the team. If they are telling Tmac "you will remain a Rocket", I hope this is only the first part of the sentence, the second part being unspoken: "until you are not, which we are trying to make reality." Sure, only Ariza has won anything, but isn't that true of most of the NBA? If you came up with a formula that you thought would turn crap into gold but actually worked in reverse, wouldn't you attempt to modify that formula? About the Sacramento Kings' hypothetical (I know you were asking DD, but...) If they think Kevin Martin can hold up and can turn either Nocioni or Battier into a backup center, you'd have to look at it.
I have no idea if Mcgrady is finally going to be healthy for an entire season and the playoffs, if we get there, or if he'll be resigned to another contract with the Rocks if he is, but it bugs the hell out of me that in every possible "trade scenario" Leeb comes up with, he's got Luis Scola on the bus leaving town.
Leeb wants athletes, it is his belief that only quality athletes win rings. I contend that quality basketball players win rings, even if they are not superior athletes... I think you need high bball IQ.....and if you can get that as well as athleticism and competitive fire....then you have gold !!! Tmac had two of the key components...but now his athleticism is in question. He does have a high bball IQ though. DD
So you disagree with Leeb and his ardent desire to toss Scola into any trade proposal he comes up with?
Deckard, when u rebuild , u don't keep 30 yr old guys on ur squad unless they're cheap or stars. When I mentioned the martin scenerioo, I said luis ressigned. In a rebuild that might take 3 yrs, why have a over 30 guy eating up 6m on a lotto team? Best believe after the season that a team will offer luis that much. DD, u know as well as I do that u either ur in or out, no in betweens which seems where the rox are. The bigger thing for me is the teams that are really good now will be still pretty good in 3 yrs and its not like the rox have a young guy that has perrenial all star written over him. Bynum,parker,anthony and aldrisge have way more upside than anyone on the rockets. So, I don't really see where this is going other than a team good enough to win 50 games but not good enough to win a title.
