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[Chron] McGrady practices with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by llRainmanll, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. jeffvangundy

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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-TtrXLido1M&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-TtrXLido1M&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    Is This the clip that everyone was talkin about that they showed before the game of Tmac dunking and looking in shape???????
     
  2. NBAok

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    no it was in Orlando.
     
  3. Rockets2K

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    wrong


    and yes, that is the clip
     
  4. leebigez

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    Its called muscle fatigue and memory. When we used to train in college, we would then go and find our range. Its mainly because doing bench,curls,lat pulls,power cleans and such has 0 to do with what you're doing on the court. That's why jordan would lift before games and go find his range. You go out and after a couple of jimmy to jar the muscle memory, the range is there. For the most part the arms are used as a guide of sorts,but the wrist are what players use to shoot. It all goes back to ur core anway.
     
  5. wekko368

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    Then explain to me why, after lifting heavy on the bench, all my shots fall short? Btw, its not just me...it's also everyone I know who lifts weights.
     
  6. wekko368

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    ^ Nvm, don't bother explaining. I've lost patience with this discussion. You're wrong. You do use your tricep when you shoot. Notice how your arm extends when you shoot? That helps get the ball to the basket. When you lift heavy on the bench, your triceps are fatigued b/c they are a secondary muscle when doing chest exercises.

    As a result, there is a loss of strength in the tricep and the shot will fall short.
     
  7. Dave_78

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    You were not lifting very hard if after a couple of shots you found your range. I can barely lift my arms above my head after doing arms, chest, shoulders or back. The fatigue lasts to a noticeable degree for the rest of the day.

    Again, if you think exercises like bench, curls, lat pulls and power cleans don't affect your shot or your functional strength on the court you were not lifting very hard at all.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    that's the only way it affects your shot (bringing the ball up above your damn head).

    but we're talking about the importance of arm strength in terms of shooting the ball. it's not very high on the list. if you depend on your arm strength to shoot, i can guarantee you're a terrible shooter.

    tip for wekko - after you bench HEAVY like you claim, throw the ball against the wall to stretch your arms for just 2 minutes. if u know how to shoot, you should be fine.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/thvTgiAyI5g&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/thvTgiAyI5g&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    legs and wrist. from the best shooter today.
     
  10. Dave_78

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    Are you kidding or have you finally gone full r****d?
     
  11. t_mac1

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    i invite you to see me shoot if you're around SF. milberry union gym across from UCSF.
     
  12. roslolian

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    t_mac1 knows what he is talking about. Read between the lines, he is not saying arm strength is not used in taking shots, just that it is not as important as the wrist and the legs. You do use your tricep, but they are not the primary muscle that gets the ball in the hoop, the flipping motion should be done by your wrists. Of course your shots would fall short when you play hoops after you lift (WTF are you even arguing this point? How often does this happen?). You use arm muscles to lift the ball, and then when you do the follow through you are extending your arms so you should feel pain and soreness when you attempt a shot.

    Have you had someone teach you how the proper shooting forms, or have you learned to play just by yourself? Look at basketball websites in the web, all of them stress that if you want to put the ball in the hoop, the force should come from your legs. Using arm strength is not enough, unless you're Popeye and have these huge ass arms.
     
  13. Dave_78

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    Not in SF. I doubt I could be around you long in real life anyway.
     
  14. t_mac1

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    i know clutchfans have some street ballers, shooters please care to elaborate?

    b/c this is getting ridiculous.
     
  15. HTown_TMac

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    i think im lolin
     
  16. t_mac1

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    likewise, b/c you'll be assuming things as usual.
     
  17. rockets2

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    Yeah because you're so great :rolleyes:
     
  18. Dave_78

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    It's not about soreness or using your arms to propel the ball. It's about the fact that after a hard work out even doing things like lifting your arms in front of you (or lifting the ball in a shooting motion) becomes much more difficult due to muscle fatigue. Can you still lift them? Of course but considering how precise a jumper has to be one or more major muscle groups being very fatigued is going to throw off the entire shot.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    I appreciate that. :D
     
  20. Dave_78

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    That's what we do when we are on a discussion forum for fans. We speculate, assume and make guesses based on the information we have. I don't understand how this concept is still lost on you.
     

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