If this is true we would have had Olajuwon, Drexler and Jordan again just goes to show you how stupid this organization has been in the past.
I don't understand why he can't go more than 2 minutes. It seems like the Grover workouts were just as intense if not moreso than actually playing. I never understood that about recovering players.
I am sure he could go 100% on those practices now, the the team is not allowing him to do that. They want to make sure he is ready and 100% healthly.
uhh, thats still wrong, if you are talking about when a guy is shooting the basketball, if he uses most of his legs, he uses less of his arms. Just exactly what was your point with this?
before it was just one 2-minute scrimmage. last sunday, it was multiple. so i think they're just building him up slowly. however, i do agree they're being OVERLY cautious. but history tells them to do that.
Actually, its not wrong. Go to a basketball court and try hanging in the air before shooting. If you're hanging in the air before shooting, that means your shot is no longer aided by the upward momentum from your jump. I believe I was talking about McGrady's shooting form for last year and the preceding years when I brought this up.
I dont know how muych basketball you have ever played, but its about the wrist when shooting. Go look at dale curry and he doesn't leave the groung and it has nothing to do with arm strength unless dudes are fouling you.
shooting is all about wrist and legs. arm strength has very little to do with it. when NBA players get fatigued, their shots are short -> legs. if you have an inconsistent stroke, you ain't flicking your wrist right.
i have more than enough times to know. when i shoot i try to jump to my highest level so that my shot wont get blocked. By doing this i cant over use my arms or the ball will just sail past the rim. when you dont jump to much you will likely be pushing the ball more with your arms to get it to the rim.
It also involves triceps and legs. Ever try shooting a basketball after you've been bench pressing? Everything falls short.
yea but this argument isnt about the proper way to shoot, but about the difference in the amount of arm strength used while shooting the ball, even if it isnt by much
arm strength has VERY little to do with shooting the ball. if you use your arms, you probably have a very inconsistent stroke. wrist and legs. simple as that.
well, give yourself 2-3 minutes of rest and you'll be fine. the arms are necessary for bringing the ball up properly before your shoot. i did that a few times and i can barely hold the ball right over my head so i can shoot, which was easy to solve.
perfect example is kevin durant. dude is probably the weakest player in the NBA, yet has one of hte longest range in the NBA. at 5'4, i can probably bench press as much as he does.
Triceps are a key muscle for shooting the ball and are a secondary muscle to the chest (when benching). I brought up benching b/c people generally don't work their triceps individually. Durant may not have been able to bench much, but that doesn't mean he has weak triceps. He probably just has a weak chest. If your arms only need 2-3 minutes of rest before being able to shoot a ball normally, then you're not pushing yourself very hard at the gym.
b/c I DON'T USE MY ARMS TO SHOOT. i did play ball several times right after benching, and yes, it is hard b/c i can't hold the ball up since my arms/chest are freakin' done. but try throwing the ball against the wall of a gym like 20x, and you'll be straight b/c you're stretching it. find me a coach that emphasizes arm strength in shooting. if he does, it's like near the end of the list.
When I say "arms", I'm assuming that the triceps are part of the arms. Taking this assumption into consideration, do you now understand what I'm saying? The tricep is what allows your arm to fully extend, and the wrist provides the follow through.
The combination of bicep, chest, back, tricep, and forearm muscles is what gives you a less taxing release. Arm strength is pretty damn important.
i never said it isn't. but you never hear a shooter complaining about arm strength right? if he's tired, he's complaining about his legs. if he's not making shots, it's due to his stroke/technique (wrist). look at a guy like dwayne wade. he has a VERY muscular body. but before last year, his range was out to 18-20 ft. he was a terrible 3pt shooter. yet a guy like kevin durant has no problems shooting way beyond the 3pt arc. again, if you depend on your arms when you shoot (besides just bringing up it to your head), i can say you're not a very good shooter. releasing the ball is all about the wrist. if you ballhog, your wrist should be pretty sore like crazy after a game. look at how yao shoots a free throw. now compare him to shaq. the difference is simply in the wrist. shaq can't flick his wrist to save his damn life.
