[Chron] McGrady may not play in opener

Youre comparing yao to shaq?. back then shaq was the most dominante player to ever play the game. the fact right now is tracy is better then yao.

 

This is exactly why we got Artest now. Let McGrady rest and be 100% for the playoffs and not rush comingback. Take a few more games for all I care. Just be ready for the playoffs is what matters!

 

T-Mac needs to be healthy in May or June, so if it takes missing time in November to accomplish that i'm fine with it.

 

Bingo.

 

Hard question to answer really, considering one got shipped out because he lost the battle of importance but then won a championship right after. In fact you would probably say they are equally important since there is no way they would have won the title without each other.


Its like asking

who is more important, KG, Ray Allen or Paul Pierce

 

Well, since you asked, I can say without a doubt that the answer to that is ...

Def. NOT Ray.

 

No ray ray

no Sasha schooling

and possibly no win.

Its all relative. AND he had big games leading up to the Final Series. You might as well say, who is more important Horry hitting clutch shots or the stars involved in the finals with him. Everyone is just as important, this is why its a team sport and what championships are made off.

 

Why is it definately not Ray Allen?

You're an idiot.

They struggled against a team who definately did not deserve to be in the playoffs in the Atlanta Hawks.
The nearly were overcome by the one-man Cleveland Cavaliers.

And just happened to absolutely destroy when Ray Ray came to the party and played to his capabilities.

...

I'm only joking.

 

I still say Allen was less important than KG or Pierce.

 

If it wasnt for KG and Pierce playing so well while Ray wasn't "at the party" then they wouldnt have made it to the ECF.

 

It's obvious you missed the i'm joking section of the post.

 

correct me if I'm wrong but one game of the final series only Ray Ray came to play. I don't remember which one.

ITs all relative for the Big 3. Its arguable to say without Ray on the floor the spacing would be completely different for Pierce and KG

 

Didnt miss it at all.

Just responding to your point which I thought was necessary to confirm my stance on the matter.

 

Why was it necessary to confirm your stance when you saw i said i was joking? Which in turn would lead to the fact that i agree with your point?



Strange kid aussie. strange kid.

 

You totally missed the point of the question. First of all, as much as Shaq (back then) was better than Yao is, the disparity between Kobe (back then) and current Tmac is just as wide.

My point is, just because a person is more versatile doesnt make him better. Kobe was far more versatile than shaq, but shaq was undoubtedly the engine that ran the machine.

And sorry, but your belief that tmac is better than yao is nothing more than an opinion.

Wrong. Shaq was the reason they won. The fact that he won a title in Miami should dispel any notion that Kobe and Shaq were equally important to the Laker titles.

 

I understand your point, but I see it like this.

Without KG - Pierce and Ray would not have a ring.

Without Pierce - KG and Ray probably dont have a ring.

Without Ray - KG and Pierce likely still have a ring (assuming they used his roster spot and space in the salary cap for another decent player or two)

 

the kobe of back then that won the rings with kobe and the PLAYOFF tmac (tmac basically will do his thing in the playoffs) at this stage are very comparable.

tmac's playoffs stats as a rocket have been far superior to that of kobe's during the championship years. HOWEVER, yao's stats pale considerably to that of yao.

shaq was the main reason that lakers team won. everyone knows it. kobe most likely was a "better" individual player skill-wise, but shaq was the more dominant player.

the thing with our duo is that the perimeter player is the more dominant player (in the playoffs that the 2 have been together anyways). tracy is the one getting most of the double teams, defensive attention (in the dallas and utah series). tracy is the one putting up the stats, and so on.

so far, this has never been shaq-kobe b/c yao has never been close to the level of shaq dominance-wise. however, you can def. argue in the playoffs, tmac has at least come close to matching kobe's performance.

but that's the past. we have added artest. and the role players have improved.

 

Ha.

If only I was a kid.

Thanks for that.

I assumed you were only joking about the idiot part.

bbjai was debating me on the topic and the point you made was good rebuttal material for my stance on the matter.

 

and wekko, you can't simply just say b/c shaq was the reason the lakers won, we have to build around yao.

when has yao shown he can lead a team? we have not seen that once since yao was drafted here.

shaq led the magic to the playoffs his first yr, and finals his 2nd yr.
we all know what hakeem can do.
patrick ewing, david robinson... and others showed they can lead their teams to the playoffs.

even tracy still up to last yr showed he can lead this team to good reg. seasons, even if yao doesn't play much.

 

Exactly. yao is nowhere as dominante as shaq was. and right now it's probaly the opposite to that scenario. we have the better and more dominante primeter player where the lakers had the more dominante interior player at that time.