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[Chron] Martin Vents Over Playing Time

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. coachbadlee

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    Better yet, look what's still happening to him. ;)
     
  2. RV6

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    With this offense, it's about getting comfortable with your teammates," Miller said. "You know what you're supposed to do, but there are so many reads. I'm trying to work with the guys to get used to passes that most people wouldn't throw that I will throw if you cut.

    And they said this guy was useless!
     
  3. coachbadlee

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    Yeah, i noticed that too. Isn't that weird?
     
  4. Spacemoth

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    Clutchfans = bunch of drama queens.

    It's better for our young guys to get the experience of losing close games in the preseason, so hopefully by the time the regular season starts and injuries require them to step up, they'll have gotten that out of their system already.
     
  5. rju1986

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    I believe the organization, in the best of positive terms, are trying to make Kevin Martin much more hungry with playing time and efficiency. This will better us in the long run. All in all, we strive for players like these to become hungrier and more efficient. Keep the faith.
     
  6. CXbby

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    Martin will not be playing "just over 20 mins" and you can bank on that.
     
  7. Dave_78

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    The coach needs to play together the guys who will be closing out games and not be giving minutes to scrubs. The season is practically here and the main guys dont look in sync.
     
  8. thetatomatis

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    I am so glad he said that. If he didnt get a little upset about not being the numbver one guy on offense here and not playing in the fourth quarter? Then i would have worried that he sint the right guy to have here. I am totaly sold on him. Guys who want to win want to be in the game and have the ball in the fourth quarter to win it. I absolutely agree that if they arent working him in the fourth quarter? Then thats a major error on their part. They did lose for that after all. When they should have won both times. I know its preseason but I thought they would work one game with regular season rotations. A rotation with him in the fourth is just plain stupid to me. I dont care how Adelman likes to have control and if Martin speaks out like its almost Tmac esque. He is right. Tmac would have been right if he said the same thing too.
     
  9. Hayesfan

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    Honestly, is he saying anything we weren't saying last night?
     
  10. RV6

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    That would apply if responses were triggered by just the boxscore, but this is due to Martin's quote.... I think if it was a preseason thing martin would know about it and have no reason to complain. What he said wasnt that bad, but it did seem to imply he was being benched for something that was going wrong, not simply to give younger guys more experience. His offense has been great, so i'd assume they're benching him to improve their defense, which can certainly carry over to the regular season.
     
  11. ElPigto

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    I highly doubt this. No matter how much of a liability defensively a good scorer is, they wouldn't leave him out either. We aren't talking about any scorer, we are talking about possibly the best player on our team right now.
     
  12. RV6

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    how much has he been playing during the preseason :confused:

    I was refering more to how he's been played, not necessarily how the season will go.... if they don't like his defense the acquisition of Lee makes it a lot easier to pull him without hesitation. It's what they would do with Scola at times....so if they need defense too often this year his PT will definitely decrease as a whole.
     
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    Absolutely. I would take a heartbreaking loss in a meaningless pre-season game any day of the week over a regular season game.

    Hopefully, guys will lean that they have to be alert, especially when the clock shows that you can't catch and shoot, so the nearest path to the basket must be guarded at all costs.
     
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    Kevin Martin, start packing your bags to Denver. :cool:
     
  15. RV6

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    i doubt they'll do it for the whole 4th quarter, or even half...but they'll certainly do it during important stretches, if necessary, and during the last minute or two...just depends on the situation/score. If this is an issue for Martin now, then even that minute here and there will be an issue for him, if it happens.

    With Budinger's improving offensive efficiency, they can opt to bench battier and bring in lee a lot more often. they didnt have that option before, so they always had to give up either offense, defense, or athleticism at those spots. Now they can go with bud/lee, which still gives them offensive options, a lot of athleticism, and they only lose defense at the 3.
     
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    Good for him! I like to this kind of passion in a player, especially in preseason. While others want to sit out meaningless games (and even meaningful: see McGrady, Tracy), Martin is giving it 100% all the time.
     
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    Good to see he cares, even in the preseason; but I hope all the players will avoid venting via the media. That will help the esprit de corps. One for all and all for one, baby. I know he's just being honest, and what he said is no big deal--but, hopefully, every guy on the roster feels the same way.
     
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    Ok, I am referring to the regular season. As far as preseason, how much has Brooks, Scola, Battier been playing? They have all barely played and it isn't because their defense sucks, its because its the preseason.

    Lee may supplement him defensively, just like Lowry does with Brooks, but that doesn't mean Martin and Brooks won't still be getting plenty of playing time.

    Pulling Martin extensively for his defense will not be a smart idea, you can see the results last night.
     
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    What they proved is they lost wothout him in the fourth quarter. Had they pulled this stunt later in the fourth quarter after him and Aaron Brooks gave us more scoring to keep Dallas at bay? Then in the last minute with a larger lead this move would have been ok to put in Courtney Lee for the final stop or couple of stops. Not a whole quarter of playing not to lose crap they pulled. You play to win then on the last play if you need a defense stop or two? Then you put in Lee. Not a whole fourth quarter of playing prevent defense and trying to keep the lead. You could argue had they had Brooks and Martin the whole 4th they would have won the game on sheer scoring keeping the game out of reach by a few more points. Stupid stupid decision making. Yao has to play 1 or two minutes more with a game on the line after already playing 24 minutes exactly? Put him in unless he was uneffective for the whole game. Martin is not a guy you ever take out of the fourth quarter though unless its the last play of the game on defense. He is our go to guy now and game ending freethrow go to guy. Its either him or Brooks but you NEVER take out both for the entire fourth quarter
     
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    What has people wondering is that this game came after a rather mild comment from Martin that he'd like to have more playing time, and with the starters, to tune up for the season. So what happens is basically what Martin's been experiencing. So Martin makes another rather mild comment about it. So what do we make of all that? I don't know, but if it continues during game #1 against the Lakers then I think we have something that deserves a rather long and heated thread. Something tells me that won't be a problem! And I promise not to use rather again for a while, unless it's a comment about Dan in D&D. ;)
     

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