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[Chron] Lopez reports handful of Rockets rumors

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. BBall Scientist

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    I am totally dismayed by Morey if any of those are true.

    I would not do ANY of the 3.

    Head is one-dimensional, BUT he is a legit NBA sharp shooter off the bench at guard. I liken him to Eddie House. Brian Cook is not even as good as Steve Novak and is just the same type of player, only Novak IS automatic.

    That trade makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


    I am going against the board here, but I would not even do the Lucas trade until I knew what Spanoulis was doing. As is, if Spanoulis does not return, then the Rockets need a 3rd PG, why dump him for a 3rd string SF just like that, especially if this rumor is true and it implies Spanoulis is gone? The #34 pick isn't going to net anything great at PG, not even half the player Spanoulis is and probably not even upgrading on what Lucas is now.

    As for dealing Spanoulis to Dallas for the #34, absolutely I do not like that move. Everyone knows San Antonio and Dallas are the top two in evaluating European players. This only confirms to me IMO that the Rockets have totally blown the Spanoulis situation, and he will probably be big time for Dallas, when it could have been for the Rockets, all save for just giving him some fair playing time. They will turn around and draft someone at 34 that will be useless, blowing the rare gem they actually found in the 2nd round in Spanoulis.

    If this article is true then I think Morey is going to be a very short term GM if he cannot improve on his thinking.
     
  2. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    I rather get chris mihm even with he's uncertian future. atleast with mihm you know he can play if he gets he's khnees right. coock is just not worth the headmaster.
     
  3. TTRocket

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    Yeah I absolutely would not trade Head for Cook at this point. First of all, Cook is an undersized PF at 6'9. He doesn't rebound or defend well and his only offensive game is a wide open spot up 3. (Pagett anyone?) Granted, Head is the same at the SG, but I think he has higher value than Cook. Head was actually one of the top 3pt shooters in the league last year, in only his second year! I'm sure he can get us more as maybe part of a package than just Brian freakin Cook.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    I guess I agree with the scientist. If Dallas is trading for Spanoulis, they feel they have a reasonable chance to keep him in the States. If he does, and he's as good as the VSpan lovers say he is, he'll be killing us for years. And doing it for Dallas. That's not acceptable. It won't just twist the blade for the four games a year we face the Mavs. Every game Spanoulis plays better than the 2nd round pick (which will be most of them), we'll all feel the pain. If you have to take a second round pick, send him to the EC or something.

    And I agree, if we are losing VSpan, let's keep Lucas. We'll need a 3rd string pg, and he'll fit that role fine. I could stand to know more about Singleton more though.

    And I'm hoping Cook isn't meant to be our starting PF. And, if he's not, and we've got a couple of guys who can play backup (Hayes, Novak, Battier), why get another backup?
     
  5. Laozi

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    Cook has been on the trading block since about 10 min. into his rookie year and no one, not even a team like the injury riddled, size depleted Bobcats have came calling. So how is trading our best player off the bench is an option?
     
  6. Relativist

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    Unless the Rockets are planning to ship out someone else (like Snyder), I think you're right that Vassily to Dallas may be part of the Head/Cook trade. As you and others have already pointed out, it doesn't work otherwise.

    I think the worst thing for me about these trades would be the possibility of Vassilis blowing up for Dallas. I can live with trading Head for Cook, although I'm not thrilled about it. But Head AND Vassilis for Cook and a crappy second-rounder would be really awful. I think the only thing that would make it worth it for me is if (1) the Lakers agreed to swap the #19 for the #26 and picked McRoberts for us, and (2) the Dallas pick is the #34.
     
  7. uchlha

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    I think Coach Adelman and part of the Rockets Brass needs to head to Greece to show that they are fully committed to keeping Spanuolis and let him try the new system with Playing Time. Make a deal or something with him to atleast get him to try out the new system, if he still doesnt like how things are playing out they can agree to a small buyout and allow him to go back to playing for Panathinikos.

    Just my thoughts on this situation.

    As for Lucas for Singleton, do it. Head for Cook Hell No to that..
     
  8. SladeRider

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    Head for Cook, HELL NO.

    The Rockets may need a power forward but they are not that deseperate to give up a trade asset like Luther Head for some big that can only hit a 3pt shot occassionally.

    As for Vspan and Lucas, I couldn't care about either of them, Vspan is just a waste of a roster spot and Lucas didn't show much last season but they should be packaged in a deal to bring in a power forward with Head and Sura because I'm sure the Rockets could get a much better power forward then someone like Brian Cook, hell, I would take Kwame Brown ahead of Cook because atleast Brown is a good man to man defender and has some skills that are useful.
     
  9. jakedasnake

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    That would probably be pretty even Talent wise. 19th and Cook for Head and 26th. Sounds pretty reasonable although I am not sure how each team values the other. Head owned the Lakers and Kobe in a couple of games this year(sick dunk and almost came back from 20 or something down with our scrubs and Luther on the court). Maybe they will overvalue Luther and little. I just hope we don't overvalue Cook because he kills us too. I swear he has almost 20 pts. every time we play them.
     
  10. Sooner423

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    Good call Hi Mana. I was racking my brain on how a Cook/Head swap could work. 2 simultaneous trades works perfectly.

    Houston Trade Breakdown

    Outgoing:
    Vassilis Spanoulis
    Luther Head
    2007 Draft #26 Pick

    Incoming:
    Brian Cook
    2007 Draft #19 Pick
    2007 Draft #34 Pick

    L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown

    Outgoing:
    Brian Cook
    2007 Draft #19 Pick

    Incoming:
    Luther Head
    2007 Draft #26 Pick

    Dallas Trade Breakdown

    Outgoing:
    2007 Draft #34 Pick

    Incoming:
    Vassilis Spanoulis

    Successful Scenario

    Due to Houston, L.A. Lakers, and Dallas being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston, L.A. Lakers, and Dallas had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
     
  11. TeamUSA

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    No to Head-Cook trade.
     
  12. bladeage

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    booo.. all these trades blow.
     
  13. Pocket Rockets

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    if vspan is not happy about playing time behind rafer and lucas, think about what it will be like behind terry and harris?
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    If Billy goes to Dallas and succeeds, ****, I just don't know what to think of something like that. It's just not worth the risk.
     
  15. Tha TC

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    Trading Billy will be a huge mistake... I would really be pssed if we let him go... i would trade JLIII and snyder or sura's contract instead of V-Span.
     
  16. dreammvp

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    WTF...thats what we need to space the floor though...thats why they drafted Novak....to shoot...cook can do that and proven that he can.....I think I would do that trade in a heartbeat....
     
  17. SpiffyRifi

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    I like how all these people are saying well if we trade V-Span and he blows up we'll be kicking ourselves. Ok, well what if:
    a) V-Span continues to suck under Adleman,
    b) a servicable power forward like Glen Davis is available at the 2nd round spot and he turns out to be at the very least a rotation player for another team, or
    c) V-Span goes back to Greece and we get nothing for him

    Wouldn't we be kicking ourselves then too? I don't know if V-Span is going to be something or not...but to put the nix on the deal because of the possibility of him blowing up in Dallas (which is especially unlikely as they've got 2 pg's that are much better than ours - so he'd be a third option) doesn't make much sense. It's not like we're trading Tracy to our inter-division rivals! I'm not making a comment one way or another about this deal - just saying let's not overreact...at the end of the day, V-Span is just an unproven player who is proving to be a disruption.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Lopez is hilarious. he actually references his column on his show and says cook might be a rocket. I'm like why, because you said so in a column. since these guys are on the radio now, there is a real conflict of interest because these shows can be driven but what is written in the paper. ratings go down, lopez can just write a column to drive talk show topics.
     
  19. Big Shot Bob

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    all the people who are saying that if vspan gets good in dallas, we arent gonna be kicking ourselves because:

    1.) Vspan has a two year deal so therefore has a 2 year window to turn into this superstar you predict

    2.) This dude is looking for big money if he stays in the NBA, the rockets arent gonna shell it out for him. that's not moneyball.

    3.) We have a better chance of picking a player that fits into adelman's system better than spanoulis (i.e. how about someone who can hit a jumpshot)

    4.) A alston/james combo is pretty much the two extremes on the typs of point guards, which is perfect for a balanced attack.
     
  20. Big Shot Bob

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    Im ok with the cook head deal. We need a robert horry type player at the 4. cook is close enough. luther just becomes a liability if we play him at the 2. he's one of my favorite rockets but he's gotta be able to be a point guard to really be effective and we dont have the time frame to develop him right now. cook is basically developed all the way he's gonna be (maybe he can be a better rebounder) but he gives us a weapon that can counter bonzi/yao's inside game. It makes sense......

    What I find hilarious is that lakers fans think that luther head is their solution to the pg situation. They say he has good handles and defense and he can run the triangle offense. lol!!
     

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