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Chron: Looking for Answers? Yao for Starters

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JeffB, Nov 28, 2004.

  1. lanqiu1

    lanqiu1 Contributing Member

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    Say whatever you want.

    I saw this coming two weeks ago. I was labeled too negative. My observation on Yao's unhappiness was labeled imagination. My worry of Yao leaving the team was labeled "traitor".

     
  2. pasox2

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    Do you think they're tanking?


    Hey, I hate JVG as much as the next guy, but ...geez. They really are just that bad.
     
  3. Phreak3

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  4. hangxy

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    It's unfair to put all the blame on Yao although he sucks quite a few times this season. JVG shoud be blamed as well, at least 50%. It's not wise to stick to your idea instead of doing adjustment according to the plaers you have. Look at pacers. After they lose three starters they still manage to win.
     
  5. generalthade_03

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    GOTOLOVEIT2, ROCKET RIVER, nice posts and comments. The Yao haters and doubters are always out there, lurking and chomping at the moment that Yao messes up so they can pounce on him mercilessly.

    I believed in Yao 100% until he proves me wrong. Maybe it's just faith or whatever but in sports there's not much you have to go by except faith. Plenty of players have been labeled a bust or viceversa and they went on proving a lot of people wrong!It's an inexact science . Yao is a unique player that we have not seen for quite sometimes. Yao has a different make up than your regular NBA player. Yao understands the game of basketball, he has the skills, the heart, the drive, the BB IQ and most of all the pride.

    I know a lot of you out there already are seriously doubting what I'm saying, I'm okay with that. We live in an instant microwave society, a lot of us want sh**t done yesterday, we have zero patient or tolerance for anything especially in the arena of sports.

    Yao has faced plenty of obstacles in his young life/career, he has overcome most of them so far. Let be fair about our analysis of Yao. Yao up until now has perfomed admirably despite playing in an incomplete team. A team lacking a true starting point guard and a legit power forward. A team that has a coach in JVG who's beginning to suck the life out of this team. A team who is put together hastily or stupidly and has so many flaws and holes not the least of which "TALENTS".

    How many times have you seen JVG stick up for Yao when the Refs are killing him with their BS. I have not recalled a single instant JVG got tossed out of games because of Yao, ROCKET RIVER covered this issue very well. When your franchise player is being treated like a third rate NBDL player and you do nothing about it, something is seriously wrong with that.

    How many times have you seen the team go for long stretches without getting Yao involved in the offense.

    How many times have you seen other players take a lot more shots than Yao . The only player in this team I want to see who take more shot than Yao is TMac. I don't care if Yao goes 2-20, we'll never really find out about Yao if he keeps taking 8,9 shots per game.

    Yao has problems no doubt, but what player does not have weaknesses. We hired Ewing to coach Yao and so far I'll let you all decide whether it's working or not. Until all those issues been addressed, Yao will never got a fair shake.

    Sometimes all you got to do is just have faith!
     
  6. JunkyardDwg

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    You are such a freakin pessimist it's making me sick... and btw you are obviously deluded too...

    JVG will see the door before Yao does.... you said it yourself, T-Mac came here to play with Yao, not JVG. So why the hell would the Rocket's get rid of Yao?! Oh wait... I know why, because then you'd get your no-so-secret wish for Yao to move out west :rolleyes:
     
  7. tinman

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    Dude,
    its the slowest front court now!
     
  8. tim562

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    Then, this is where the coach comes in. He finds a way to get his star center the ball. If one coach decides to use some lanky PF and front him, then JVG (or whoever the coach is) has to counter. Thats what coaching is all about. If someone is torching you on one end you double team him. The coach with the torching player then has to find a way to get his man the ball or just give up and lose. Yeah right, he will find a way. This is JVG fault. He has to find a way to be the fronting defense. That is why he is the coach
     
  9. rvpals

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    Great post, just sum up all I wanted to say.
     
  10. smoothie

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    we are not going to trade yao any time soon...
     
  11. Summer Song Giver

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    I'd be interested to see how many and what combinations of Baby Bulls Yao Fink would fetch us.



    /BTW added some player quotes to my sig.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    If you were going to explore trading Yao, I don't see why you'd feel adequately compensated by even a Hinrich+Deng combo. Yes, they're both young and will both be good players in the league, but I think the consensus about Yao is still that he should get you a better player in return to a promising rookie and 2nd year player.
     
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    I'd feel adequetly ocmpensated but I'm probably not the best one to ask as I would feel adfequetly compensated if the big b**** feel off the team bus while it was doing 85mph and I never hgad to see him wear a Rox jersey again. I farrgin hate him for all he has done to the Rox.
     
  14. lanqiu1

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    If Yao reject contract extension, Rockets will have no choice but trading him. This team already lost EG for nothing. Can't afford something like that.

    Technically, Yao have to play for this team until 2007 to become a unrestricted free agent. But if TMac can blackmailed Orlando, Yao can do the same thing.

    Once Yao turn down the new contract, Les has to trade hime sooner than later, when his reputation hasn't been comletedly destroyed by uninspiring Rockets game.


     
  15. idlel

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    You are just sick. Shame on you.


     
  16. DollarBill

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    Well said. You took the words right out of my mouth. I couldn't have said it better myself. I have faith in Yao and T-Mac, and I firmly believe JVG is the single biggest reason they can't perform at the lvl we all expect 'em to play. I said this before and I say it now.
     
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    JVG has successfully ruined SF3, TMac, and Yao's games. Now JVG is NOT at least one of the those to blame?:eek:
     
  18. rhester

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    Blah, Blah, Blah...

    Yao has some big faults:

    1. His hands aer terrible, this is #1, because he has bad hands (may be a strength issue) he mishandles alot of passes, he is a terrible rebounder and he gets stripped too often.

    2. His jump hook is sorry, everytime he makes one I cringe because he will go back to it. His face up jumper is his shot, he also has a good spin move to the basket he hasn't been using. instead of spinning on the baseline he has tried the drop step to the middle of the paint where he has taken several tough shots.

    3. He has slumbering quickness. His lateral quickness is turtle speed and he is very poor at help defense. The high pick and roll kills him, as do centers who can take him off the dribble.

    His plusses are pretty strong though. When he is aggressive he blocks shots and gets 9-10 boards. When he gets the ball deep in the post he is very tough. He has a great face up jumper form 15 ft in.

    Yao's problems are beign exposed. Unless he improves he will be relegated to a lumbering 15 pt 7 reb. center. - very average.

    He must improve his hands, rebounding and stay very aggressive.

    If he would stay aggressive inthe game and keep fighting he will be fine. He must somehow improved his hands if he wants to live up to the expectations. He can do it if he sets his heart to it.
     
  19. zong

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    What does this JOHN P. LOPEZ guy want to do by writing this paper? Everyone knows Yao is not playing well, but he is the only problem in the team. How about JVG, PF and other postions. Is JVG thinking to trade Yao? this JPL is trying to make some noise. Too bad for the team when you have JVG, no player is happy right now except JJ (maybe).
     
  20. Jeff

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    Worry? How about hopeful?

    You weren't labelled a "traitor." I actually said that some might call someone who said what you said a traitor. And, what you said was that you could not be a fan of the team if they had JVG AND that you would rather see Yao play for another team and would root for him then.

    You are negative. That's not a question. That's a fact. Your suggestion that Yao is depressed as a result of his coach and that is accounting for his bad play IS imagination. There is no proof anywhere that this is the case. It was something that was SUGGESTED by posters on this board but has no concrete proof in reality.

    So far, you have posted a bunch of opinions and then got pissed when people disagreed with you as if what you are saying is irrefutable.

    You are entitled to your OPINION, but that is all it is.
     

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