I'm anything but a Morey fan. But for those of you that worship at the Altar of $Ball....let's repeat what the man just said.... "...Defense historically has been moderately more important but you generally have to be top 10 at both and very good at something. ..." For those that struggle with definitions.... Adverb: moderately módurutlee To a moderately sufficient extent or degree - reasonably, pretty, jolly [Brit], somewhat, fairly, middling, passably, middlingly, averagely
Gater what does saying that defense is moderately more important than offense have to do with money ball? He's saying you have to have more points/possession than your opponents.. which is both sides of the ball.
It doesn't, GATER is suffering from MDS: Moneyball Derangement Syndrome. Any mention of statistical analysis or anything or anyone associated with it, he has to write something to attack "moneyball."
I am a math geek like Morey, but I am the first one to admit that he will be a terrible GM. He has no basketball background. Crunching the numbers is the easy part. How about being able to recognize the intangibles that players bring? He can't hold a candle to C Dawson
Statistical analysis is great, but that's a clerical task. A GM is the business face of the franchise. He needs to have business savvy as well as an extensive basketball background. Morey has neither. His input is valuable, but I could do what he does. You can replace Morey with a $10 computer program and you wouldn't know he even existed. Morey's service to the Rockets is negligible and it in no way replaces the managerial duties of leading a basketball franchise. I mean it doesn't take a genius to figure out the best player combinations. He doesn't add anything to the Rockets. The only thing that he does is convert them from traditional management to one that focuses on numbers to evaluate players. I am sure that he has baketball guys around him, but only one guy gets to make a decision. You better believe when that time comes he will base that decision on numbers which I don't agree with. I think statistics is a very powerful discipline, but not in basketball where statistics is a product of how players interact and not a predictive factor.
Daryl_Morey: We are actively looking for moves to improve the team now or in the future. At this point, nothing is imminent but we have several things still pending where we are waiting on other teams to respond. I wonder what are those several things that are pending and I hope those teams respond soon The phoenix suns are looking for a player with a low salary for a second round pick **cough** Kirk Synder **cough**
Yeah cause Scola turned out to be a real flop... and Carl Landry was a stupid buy in the second round. Not to mention how we blew our first round pick on a shrimp out of Oregon.
I think I do. I have a business background. What makes you certain you know what you are talking about?
Brooks is coach A's choice. Landry is good, but I don't think he is significantly better than big baby. In addition, for the Scola deal, the rockets did not just get Scola, we also got JB, and I think we should keep JB to backup Yao. Actually, Yao doesn't have a backup right now, and he plays too many mins sometimes. The worst deals are James and SF3. The rockets are paying huge money for them, but both of them are useless. And, don't forget, the James' deal is not just about James, there is also another player (sorry, I forget his name), and the rockets had to waive him as well.
That's kind of interesting, because Shane Battier is considered to be both a "$Ball" acquisition, and he's also considered an "intangibles" guy. What type of intangibles are you talking about, and which teams do you think do a good job in recognizing them?
I have to agree w/ Carl H. Morey has yet to show me he is not capable of bring in players. -Pulled off the Scola trade A -Drafted up to land Landry A+ -Drafted Brooks B+ -Got Steve to come back to the Rox. Yes it hasn't worked out but we didn't pay much $$ for it. Still a good move not Morey's flat Steve is done. B -Traded for Mike James. Again not Morey's falt James is done. B- -Got Deke to come back w/ us for one last ride! A+++++++! -Bonzi went for his player option; yes I know it was because RA but he gets some credit. B -Ect. I also have a business back ground & from what I can see Morey is a DAMN good GM. Unless you have something to add rather than just pure speculation??? -Shawn
Wasn't Battier Carroll's move? I am refferring to everything that is not reflected in the numbers. I don't have any special insight as to which teams are good in recognizing them but obviusly the best GMs in the league have been players or coaches who understand the NBA game, not a basketball virgin. Jerry West, Colangelo are former NBA players. CD was a former coach. I know you are good with numbers. Do you believe that there are things Morey can do that you can't?
The other player you are talking about is Mike Harris, I think. I agree, the James and Francis acquisitions look pretty bad in hindsight. I was never overly excited about the Francis trade, but I thought both made sense in the offseason. I don't think we were paying Francis huge money for what we expected from him. James has a bad contract, sure, but we traded another bad contract to get him. It amounts to an extra year. Definitely bad in hindsight, but I think most of us expected James to supplant Alston as the starting PG. I think both acquisitions were low-risk, potentially high-reward. It didn't pan out, but at least we didn't kill ourselves as a result.
I pulled Morey's quote right out of the re-cap. What part of the English language are ya'all struggling? Suggesting a reading comprehension class next semester to get your noses out of the Algebra books.
It's speculation to assume that Morey is a good GM because of one year's worth of moves. I have nothign agaisnt the guy. You're right, I am speculating, it's just my personal opinion that lab warriors don't make for great managers and they certainly don't have first hand experience of the game. Regarding Mike James and a couple of other moves, isn't it a GM's job to envision how those pieces he acquires will fit? Bottomline is, Mike Jame is a bust.
Daryl Morey was the chief proponent of the move. Jeff Van Gundy, I believe, referred to that. Who did Colangelo (either Jerry or Bryan) play for? CD was the guy who got the Rockets into how many years of lotter? How about Hall of Famers Isiah Thomas, Elgin Baylor, Kevin McHale? Are they great GMs? If you think all that Morey does is read stat sheets or even 82games.com or PER numbers, you are insane. If you think Les Alexander, who I bet has a more extensive and successful business background than you do, would pay Morey good money to do what a $10 computer program can do, you are insane.
