I think the younger-Rasheed Wallace type works better. A guy who can shoot the 3 but can also bang down low. I definately don't think the current Wallace is good enough though. I know many people are optimistic about Amare but I'm not too sure how he will fit with Yao. We know that Amare can play above the rim but he really doesn't have many moves when facing against the basket. He trives in fast-transition offense because he faces the basket but would he trive in a half-court offense?
stop thinking about the players. think about the contracts. a contract in the NBA is just like your car note or mortgage. it dictates a cost associated with the acquisition of an asset. as long as the asset (in this case the services of player x,y,z) is performing on par with or above his contract then it has value. i would argue that even a player like shane, who is having a terrible year, is still valued on par with his contract, because the price you are paying for his services is not prohibitive. obviously you expect more from him based on past performance but at the same time, that's exactly why his value is more stable. this year is an abberation for Shane, and his expected regression to the mean takes him back to being a reliable, intelligent, team-oriented player. and such a player has value even if his shot didn't fall for one year, when he was playing on a dysfunctional, leaderless team. I would argue that just about all of the contracts that morey has taken on are performing at or above value. in the case of luis, significantly above value. he's an mle player getting paid half that. those types of contracts are especially valueable simply because in a cap restricted league its very difficult to come across a proven commodity with consistent performance with such a high ROI on such a minimal investment. So, anyway, although I understand what youa re saying, the point here is that "moneyball" or "moreyball" as i call it is a very, very good thing. if the non moreyball guys performed at the level of the moreyball guys, we'd be looking at the best record in the NBA.
I would go CoCo's if we got a guy like Durant. I'd trade Tmac+Artest+Battier+Rafer for Durant. Guy would be the Franchise on this team. But if Yao couldn't work with Tmac, why would he work with Durant, or any other guy? :/
why do we need a huge trade??? Trade tmac for von wafer and give tmac 5-10mins a game....thats all there is to it. And i'm gonna throw out the joey dorsey idea again...its time to let hime play
I think it's time for t-mac apologists to eat some crow. Everyone who defended t-mac for so long, overlooking his lack of heart, should own up to it now. I'm absolving the others of blame, but t-mac's play has been an abomination for someone with his level of talent. He's a primadonna. You can't win with a primadonna destroying locker room chemistry. I don't think it's a surprise that we play better w/o him than with him. And he still can't admit that he's the problem.
I like this idea. On a more sarcastic note... Here's another idea: Artest/Battier/McGrady for Arenas/Butler/Jamison. EPN trade machine accepts it, so it MUST be feasible.... I'm kidding, of course, but I can dream.
Too bad those value contracts don't bring you Championship. It's the big contacts that determines the ultimate prize. Value Contracts are nice to have and essential to have all the pieces fall into place, but they are no where as crucial in terms of playoff successes. Think about all Championships in the last several years. Moneyball desn't tell you Tmac is in serious decline (thus missed the chance to trade him). And when it does, it's too late, because by then everyone and his mom would have known it. Game statistics is public information.
True, he inherited Tracy and Yao. But he has plenty of chances to trade them. What does his moneyball say about them? I'm curious.
How do you know? Are you Morey? Yao, I can envision might be the case, Tmac, I can hardly. Unless the owner was told they are both fantastic. Nobody is against more wins, you know, not even Les. What's the point? I'm curious? In fact, let's define the objectives first.
its been stated before that Les likes having Tracy on the roster because he is a superstar and superstars inflate the value of the teams and sell merchandise. take that how you will. Yao, is Yao. Theres no need for discussion there. Beyond the superficial, consider that Morey's team operates with a balance of subjective and quantitative analysis. and given that approach, and how notoriously inefficient tracy is, and how many games he misses, and how he is basically the polar opposite of the type of player that such an approach would highlight . . . it deosnt take a rocket scientist to see that things dont add up. my (somewhat informed) opinion is that if Morey had his way, tracy would have been gone a long time ago.
psst... I don't know if you have listened to Morey to praise Tmac, citing his statistics to back up his claims at that, because I have. So you believe Les would rather have a big-name than actual successes. so be it.
heh. okay. If you want to believe everything he says in the media, go ahead. I'm sure what he says in his PR responsibilities is really the truth. really. come on now.
if you read it, and you dont get it, then theres not much of a way I can explain it is there? considering that they were my words that you didnt understand in the first place?
Let me sum it up for you. Your theory is that Morey can't trade Tmac (and Yao), because having a bloated superstar is more valuable than actual playoff success in terms of profits. (Is that true? I seriously don't know, although I doubt it). So the organization doped us fans into "win now" PR, and out to get value contracts that can keep up enough on-court success and thus enough of the fan interest. That's also the reason they passed up opportunity to trade Tmac before the season starts. (oh, let's see how those Mcgrady jersey would sell.) And Morey used his stats to do the PR job for Tmac, (how versatile those stats are!) Is that it?
