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[chron]Let's Make a Deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by the_hustler, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. ibm

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    since when granger and durant became "superstars" and "all-around players"? not to mention their teams won't give them up. no way.
     
  2. FR0497

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    Alston had his 3 highest 3PT shooting %'s in a season with other teams.

    I'm with you on getting who we can get to make us better, but at the same time it has to make $ sense too.

    I would trade anybody on this team other than Scola and Yao. To be honest, if Yao could net us a hell of a deal I would do that too. I know he isn't going anywhere though since he brings too much money to the Rox and that goes back to making $ sense.
     
  3. HowsMyDriving

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    tracy for jkidd straight up.

    yes i said it.

    i think jkidd is better too.
     
  4. ibm

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    why would dallas do it?
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

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    true. god that's sad.

    we need a vomit emoticon.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    a true superstar can have an off offensive game (like lebron did v. the lakers). nobody is god. but a true superstar can still do other things to help his team. lebron still got 8 rebounds and 11 assists.

    when yao has a bad offensive game, he doesn't do anything to help the team.

    i'm fine with keeping yao, but just not as the main guy. if tracy was healthy, he would do a lot more than what he has already done in half a season.
     
  7. leebigez

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    IBM, I know your going to disagree with me, but I don't think the rockets will ever win again as long as they have "untouchable" players on their roster. I don't think there is a player good enough on the team to deserve that label. If Moses Malone can be traded fresh off a finals appearance and his 2nd mvp, any player should be availible. Now if as a franchise you're worried about connections to extra money that you're not using anyway, then you're no better than the clippers owner.If you want to tear it down after the season and start over, everyone has to be on the block.
     
  8. ibm

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    former girl friend is tough to forget, even after cutting the tie. i see.

    i kid. i kid. :p
     
  9. t_mac1

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    they're not superstars now. i'm saying "in the future."

    granger and durant are already super scorers. durant is putting up 26ppg on 48% shooting (sure it's on a bad team, but he gets more defensive focus). granger is putting up 25ppg on 45% shooting. both rebound pretty good.

    the only thing left that prevents them from making their teams better is their ability to make others better. and that can only come with experience.

    but irregardless, i just want us to get "that guy" where the other teams fear and the crowd KNOWS "that guy" is gonna own them.

    we haven't had that since hakeem. and that's a freakin' long time, for me at least.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    the only players that should be untouchable in this league are: lebron, kobe, wade, and paul.

    those guys do EVERYTHING for their teams.

    our guys here all have roles, some bigger than the other. but none is a superstar. so none should be untouchable.
     
  11. B-balltm

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    I don't think a trade is the answer, either. Besides, the obvious of course. You always looking for quality role players at good prices, and a significant upgrade at PG (which are hard to find).

    But besides the obvious, it's not worth it to make significant changes to the core. Like McGrady said, this isn't a time to point fingers. It's a time to come together as a team. They just have to play this out.

    The Artest trade was a huge steal for us, and despite that, the team's still playing worse basketball than they did last year. I think that should tell you something. How much good can it do to simply to bring in another talented player when we can't even make it work with what we have here? We can't trade our whole starting five.
     
  12. HowsMyDriving

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    Les is not trading Yao. period.

    its not even worth discussing really.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    and i'm fine with that. yao is a great player to have on your team. but he's not "untouchable."

    but we all know why he is though.
     
  14. ibm

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    i actually agree. surprised? :cool:

    no one is truly "untouchable" per se. besides moses, what about the lakers traded away shaq to miami? he had quite some gas left in the tank when that happened.

    and les has not been shy in spending. but i guess his misfortune in investing and the recent recession have got to him. how else can you explain he INSISTS not to exceed the lux tax limit?

    as a fan for over 2 decades, i just want to see them make meaningful changes to salvage the season - and quick, since the deadline is only 10 days away. there is a small chance we can still do better than last year - with maybe a bit luck. considering all possibilities, keeping yao for now and trying everyone else is the way to go imo.
     
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    I think they should send a fax to avery johnson and ask him if he would want to coach the rox. If he said yes, I would fire adelman over the all star break and give avery the job.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    this team needs a disciplinarian right now. RA is showing no signs of disciplining players. if JVG was here, he'd benched tracy, yao, and every starter except for scola the rest of the game and they wouldn't even play the 3rd most likely.

    get avery. get larry brown. get whoever. sure the players are problematic right now, but the coach is showing no signs of showing control.

    a players' coach is bad in these situations. no wonder wade had no chance with the cowboys with all those drama.
     
  17. robywang

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    Didn't Yao grab 10 rebounds this game?
    Even if TMac was healthy, there's no question that Yao is the main guy on the team. Yao does his job. If TMac does too, Rockets would still be a contender.
    It will be delusional to doubt that.
     
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    If the GM or owner speaks up and says nobody's going anywhere make it work, we'll see a team resigned to their fate that might attempt to work it out.

    The whole tear apart the team and get young athletes to salivate over and have wet dreams about their potential thing does not guarantee success, hesistant to do that again. It can be the Trailblazers & Hawks, it can be & the Knicks & Clippers & Chicago waiting for talent to mesh. And the Blazers and Hawks arent elite yet.

    I wanted Larry Brown instead of Adelman but oh well now
     
  19. knickstorm

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    screw chemistry? look at the suns, or any sport, just importing the most talent doesnt work.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    a contender in "words." we were contenders in 04-05 with tracy as the main guy. we were contenders the past few years when tracy was still the main guy.

    the word contender is misleading.

    tracy led the team in assist tonight, did that mean he played decent? hell no.

    if you want to see what a true superstar is, watch kobe, lebron, wade, paul...

    those guys basically do EVERYTHING for the team on both ends and whatever is necessary. we don't have a guy like that. and maybe that's why we're just "contenders" in words, but not a real contender on the court.
     

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