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[Chron] Justice: Rox like McHale's Leadership

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hayesfan, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. durvasa

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    He said that basketball players are generally dumber than Kevin McHale.
     
  2. Aleron

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    I think most players realise they're not mensa guys
     
  3. MadMax

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    I agree...I like this account far better.
     
  4. Aleron

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    With supposed 10 hour+ interviews and Morey being such a statistician, it was never going to be one thing.
     
  5. tiger0330

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    Sounds like the Rox did their due diligence and got the right guy. You can see that leadership and communication ability on TV but it's his in game management that was the question given his limited coaching experience but he answered all of Morey's questions and he's probably experienced every "up by one with 8 seconds left" situation that you can imagine so I don't think we'll lose games because of his lack of coaching experience.

    He was a HOF player that made the most of his limited physical gifts to become a great player, his biggest value to the Rox may be to take 2 players with great physical gifts in Thabeet and Hill and make them good players.
     
  6. meh

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    Thanks for the recap. I can't stand Jim Rome, so I didn't listen to the interview. Overall, it seems like regular Morey for being meticulous and thorough in his research and preparation.

    Regardless of what one may think of Morey's knowledge or expertise or ego or give too many interviews or whatever. He is probably among the hardest working GMs in the league.
     
  7. TheFreak

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    There is nothing irrational about pointing out the fact that Less has an irrational tendency of scapegoating great coaches. That's all on the record. There is nothing irrational about refusing to believe that this hire will change this team's fortunes in any meaningful way. Maybe since us 'old timers' have seen this play out three times in a row now, our reaction isn't as irrational as you make it out to be.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    If the direction of the team is to win games, which has been stated repeatedly by the owner and GM, then I think Rick Adelman is as qualified as any coach that ever coached.
     
  9. TheFreak

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    The problem for Leslie with having a GM being candid like Morey and saying things like coaching only makes a difference of +/- 5 wins, is that it's easy to tell when he's giving us the standard BS/PR/company line stuff.
     
  10. Deckard

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    Oh, thank you very much. So it is irrational to be disturbed about the firing of a coach who led this team to a 22 game winning streak, second longest in league history, during his first season, equaling the all-time league record for consecutive wins by a double-digit margin, managing the second perfect record for a month in team history, and the longest road winning streak (12 games) in team history. Who led this team to 53-29 record and the second round in the Western Conference in his second season, with McGrady in a suit, taking the defending champion Lakers to seven games in the process, something no other team managed throughout the Lakers' run in the playoffs. Who then lost Yao Ming for the next two seasons, yet managed winning seasons with a bunch of role players. Who has a 860-537 record in 18 seasons, leading his teams into the playoffs in 16 of those 18 seasons, reaching the Finals twice, and who coached the Rockets to a 108-56 record, the highest winning percentage of any coach in franchise history.

    Yes, it is completely irrational to be disturbed by his firing, and disturbed about his replacement being a person who has a 39-55 record in parts of two seasons. You make perfect sense. And the topper is reading continual slams at Adelman from numerous people here for his lousy coaching, lousy defenses, a lousy relationship with the front office, and other lousy things that I can't recall at the moment and have no desire to search for. Sure, my reaction is irrational. Again, thanks for that. Morey is a God, Alexander is an owner on the cutting edge of societal evolution, McHale is going to be the next Rudy T, and Adelman is just a dumb b*stard who should have retired years ago, doing us all a favor.

    It all makes perfect sense. Let's not have a negative opinion about what's played out so far. Let's not wait for the hiring of assistants to further judge just what in the hell Morey and Alexander think they're doing. Let's not see what the draft brings us, or what roster moves Morey makes this summer in the wake of this decision. Let's just all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya. I'll bring the Kool-Aid.
     
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  11. CXbby

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    Well, if you are going to give ALL the credit to Adelman for those things, which you clearly are, then yeah that is pretty irrational.
     
  12. Deckard

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    I'm trying really hard to be polite, so why don't you show me where I said Adelman deserves ALL the credit for "those things?" Thanks in advance.
     
  13. CXbby

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    Oh, no need to be polite. Go at it.

    If Adelman doesn't deserve ALL the credit for those things, which no coach would deserve, then what exactly is your point? Lenny Wilkens and Don Nelson are both more "winninger" than Adelman. So what?
     
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    Pardon me if I remain polite. Your statement, with all respect due, is nonsensical.
     
  15. CXbby

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    Well, of course it is. If it made sense to you we would be agreeing! lol
     
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    Deckard, you're basically destroying your own argument. You keep listing Adelman's accomplishments, as if a team led by T-Mac and Yao is comparable to a team led Al Jefferson for half a season.

    By your logic, The Sacramento Kings were idiotic to hire Adelman, who was coming off of two losing seasons at Golden State. Which clearly showed, by your logic, that Adelman could not handle a roster without prime Clyde Drexler.

    Also by your logic, the Rockets were idiotic to not have given Rudy T a lifetime contract, because Rudy won 2 more championships than any of his successors(or predecessors for that matter). And that you should've stopped watching the Rockets back when they replaced Rudy with JVG. Since that would've been a much bigger travesty than anything Morey/Les has done recently.

    Also by your logic, if Adelman should get credit for the 22-game winning streak among other things(however much you deem appropriate), he should also get the blame for never touching that streak again, or 50 wins again. If a coach is really that important a team's record, then Adelman should also be pulling off 10 to 15 game winning streaks with the current roster. So why hasn't he? Did he lose his magic touch over the last two seasons?

    What's weird is that you blame Adelman's shortcomings on the roster - he failed because he didn't have players - but ignore the roster when Adelman was at his peak record wise. It's a classic case of getting too much credit when the team wins, but not enough blame when the team loses.
     
  17. Glenyo

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    but you know if we dont make playoffs, the blames on him ?
     
  18. CXbby

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    This, my friend, is "nonsensical". ;)

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  19. Deckard

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    How you managed to pull all of that nonsense out of my post is a mystery to me. Try a course in reading comprehension.
     
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  20. CXbby

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    Deckard, with all due respect, instead of telling those replying to you that they need "a course in reading comprehension", or that they "have a reading disability", or that they are "not as smart as you thought", or that they are being "deliberately obtuse", or anything else that happens to come to your mind or out of your keyboard, maybe... just MAYBE, you should re-read some of the things you've written yourself lately. Then you might understand where some of us are coming from. Assuming that you are capable of overcoming those things you accuse of us, yourself.

    After all, what do you think is more likely? That you are still suffering a state of shell shock from losing a successful and favorite coach, leading to some statements that do not make much sense, or simply ones you don't really mean? Or are we just making things up in our minds to collude and jump on you for no reason? Let's not make it "you against to world" now, right?
     

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