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[Chron] Jeffries almost traded before deal fell through

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 23, 2010.

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  1. trugoy

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    I think sacramento probably wouldn't want to blow all their capspace just to save $700k.

    They have enough space to probably get 3-4 teams under the tax and make plenty of money + draft picks this year off of it.
     
    #21 trugoy, Dec 23, 2010
  2. ArtV

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    I know this wasn't the deal but the Knicks have expressed a desire to get Jeffries back.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=239gc85

    Rockets get: Turiaf + Randolph

    Knicks get: Jeffries + Ish + their 2011 back

    Kings get: Budinger + 1 million

    That would lower our base by 2.1 million. How far are we over?
     
    #22 ArtV, Dec 23, 2010
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  3. DaDakota

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    If they trade him for nothing that means they are probably not going to be making that big move that everyone is clamoring for....you don't give up $7 million in expiring salary for nothing, unless you are pretty much done trading...

    I mean you need that $$$$ to match bigger deals.

    DD
     
    #23 DaDakota, Dec 23, 2010
  4. trugoy

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    trading him for nothing means trade exception which they can use in trades, which will probably be bettr than an expiring.
     
    #24 trugoy, Dec 23, 2010
  5. coachbadlee

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    Hopefully, thats why the deal fell through. Maybe Morey wasn't satisfied with the results because he knows he can get better later.
     
    #25 coachbadlee, Dec 23, 2010
  6. Carl Herrera

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    My guess is they'd need to offer at least the 2nd round pick for the dump. Seems to be the going price for this kind of stuff nowadays. If the Kings really need the cash, I'd imagine they'd love to have a 2nd round pick to sell in the upcoming draft.
     
    #26 Carl Herrera, Dec 23, 2010
  7. DaDakota

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    You can't combine TE, you can combine contracts....

    DD
     
    #27 DaDakota, Dec 23, 2010
  8. trugoy

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    I don't see anyone that we can realistically get that is higher than Jefferies contract.
     
    #28 trugoy, Dec 23, 2010
  9. DaDakota

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    We are looking to get someone like Iggy or a superstar player, we need to have contracts that add up to the amount they make, or if we are going to have to absorb a poison contract, we need still need money to get there.

    TE are limited...and only good for single player deals.

    DD
     
    #29 DaDakota, Dec 23, 2010
  10. trugoy

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    Iggy is not going to get traded this year, if evan turner turned out to be a stud, then maybe Iggy could be on the block. As is Iggy will not be traded.

    There is no Superstar players that are available, name ONE that is even a possibility, there are NONE this year.
     
    #30 trugoy, Dec 23, 2010
  11. coachbadlee

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    Does anyone have info on what the actual deal was yet??
     
    #31 coachbadlee, Dec 23, 2010
  12. BimaThug

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    Gotta agree with DD here. It doesn't matter who is publicly available right now. That fact is, YOU NEVER KNOW. A team could go in the toilet over the course of the next two months and decide to go in another direction. For instance, I think Pau Gasol only first became available in January 2008 before the Lakers (all too quickly) snatched him up.

    That point is, having Jeffries's expiring contract to combine salaries gives the Rockets more FLEXIBILITY in trades. And flexibility is key.
     
    #32 BimaThug, Dec 23, 2010
  13. xiki

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    Crash. Wallace > Iggy.

    Bonus: Josh Smith. If Atlanta keeps falling short of expectations in front of one of the emptiest arenas in the Association; one very possible the other irrefutable.
     
    #33 xiki, Dec 23, 2010
  14. DaDakota

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    Yep, I think the only way Jeffries is ditched for TE is if DM can not get anything bigger and they are looking to get under the Lux tax line....

    DD
     
    #34 DaDakota, Dec 23, 2010
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    I think the Rockets are are trying to get PP a little playing time in the big leagues while the schedule is a little softer, because starting with the Miami game on 12/29, things toughen up quite a bit.

    Beginning with the Miami game, the Rockets will play 10 of 11 games against teams with records over .500, with the game on 12/31 against Toronto being the only exception. As they enter this stretch, the Rockets may well send PP back down to the NBADL, as playing time on the Rockets will probably be short to nonexistent for him during that series of games.

    Here are links to the Rockets schedule and the current NBA standings:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/hou/houston-rockets
    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings
     
    #35 MojoMan, Dec 23, 2010
  16. BimaThug

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    Hmmm, I wonder where I've heard THAT before about a million times, including in this very thread. ;)
     
    #36 BimaThug, Dec 23, 2010
  17. JCDenton

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    How many years left on Turiaf? He has a bad contract for someone who shouldn't be playing over any of our PFs and has no upside.
     
    #37 JCDenton, Dec 23, 2010
  18. Carl Herrera

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    A couple of things:

    1. I don't know why they'd trade Jeffries right now in a salary dump since (a) it give him some salary-matching flexibility (though it's not all that important, see pt 2 below), and (b) it would seem cheaper (in terms of what you have to give up) to do a "salary dump" trade later in the season when he's owed less money.

    The one reasons I can think of is that someone is offered to charge the Rockets very little in a salary dump scenario, which is about as good a deal as they'd expect in February anyway.

    Otherwise, maybe they just like JJ as a person and wanted to do him a favor by giving him the chance to get some minutes for another team.

    2. As far as salary matching goes, I'm not sure JJ is that important.

    If the Rockets are going after a star player it'll likely be expensive and thus the far better salary ballast is Yao Ming's contract. His contract is huge and I recall that Ken Berger from CBSSports.com says his salary is insured, not sure if it's true. If true, I'm sure a team would love to have the insurance money. (Yes, I know Morey said they want him back at a reasonable salary if he makes a comeback, but they can always just sign him as FA in the offseason.)

    If they can get a "star" in a deal involving money less than what Yao earns, there's Battier's contract, Hayes, Hill, Patterson, AB, etc. can all be mixed and matched (sure you might prefer keeping Battier, but I doubt they let Battier get in the way of landing a star they really covet... Battier is a FA at the end of the season anyway, even if they want him back, they can sign him).

    We fans may prefer using an out-of-rotation JJ as the trade ballast, but realistically, an important trade will probably involve several rotation guys that we wouldn't want to see go.
     
    #38 Carl Herrera, Dec 23, 2010
  19. xiki

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    Including - Scola if the deal were large enough (to absorb his Base Year issues) or the team was under the cap (as if) or the team had a sufficient TE.

    IMHO any 'big' deal, major transaction, will include our Luis. More's the pity.
     
    #39 xiki, Dec 23, 2010
  20. delishman

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    Sue him for Intellectual Property!! Get some BB$ dollars!
     
    #40 delishman, Dec 23, 2010
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