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CHRON: Jazz players dissing TMAC's 4th quarter performances

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If this doesn't fire Tmac up, what will? Just go out there and take over the game. Show those SOBs what you are made of. Enough with all the team-ball crap. How I wish I can slap you in the face and wake you up. Adjust your game plan and save some energy for the crucial moments. You must regain your confidence cause you are the best player in the series.

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Why shouldn't they? He can't beat them from the floor (thirty some odd percent), from the line (sixty some odd percent) or on D (Tracy McGray - No D). They are up 3-1 and about to advance and TMac will be 0-8 in the playoffs.

#42 northeastfan, Apr 28, 2008
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I'm tired of hearing about how Tracy is banged up. So was Deron Williams the other night(did you see him limping in the 4th quarter?). Yet he still managed to blow by the Rockets defenders late in the game and make two huge buckets. And considering the final margin was 4 points, that was your ballgame right there.

Tracy has Kyle Freaking Korver on him for part of the game. Other times he has Matt Harpring guarding him. These are two players T-Mac should be able to blow by at will. But he doesn't.

Look at the play the other night when the Rockets got a stop and Mehmet Okur went down on the floor and didn't get up right away. The Rockets had a 5-on-4 advantage. T-Mac has the ball. And what happens? Nothing! He just dribbled on the perimeter and allowed Okur to get back so the Jazz could set up their defense.

It's not about his physical limitations. It's his mental deficiencies that are holding him back. If Tracy were using his brain, he'd know that he's a 33% 3-point shooter AT BEST. And he'd stop jacking them up(which not coincidentally he did in the Rockets' lone win in this series). He'd know that dribbling around at the 3-point line for 15 seconds like Steve Francis is not the way to beat the Jazz defense. He'd concentrate when he got to the foul line so that his free throw shooting percentage wouldn't be hovering in Shaq territory.

More than the fact that he's lost a step(or two), this postseason is finally proving what I've been suspecting all along. T-Mac is weak mentally. I don't think it's that he lacks the desire to win. He is trying out there. But he doesn't step it up to the degree that the truly great ones do. The true superstars don't care about fatigue or injuries. They overcome that because the mere thought of losing is more painful than any bruised knee or sore back.

Does anyone here think T-Mac could play through the flu like MJ did in Game 5 against Utah? Or a badly sprained ankle like Isiah in Game 6 against L.A.? Or even a broken pinky like Kobe's done this year since the All-Star Break? Hell no! The man would shut it down immediately.

Ultimately, T-Mac is a lot like David Robinson. Good teammate. Puts up great numbers in the regular season. But doesn't have the fire or the intensity to be the best when it really matters. I don't think trading him is an option, so the Rockets have to pray that Yao Ming not only stays healthy next season, but can be the one to have that killer instinct that his fellow superstar clearly lacks.
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#43 ibm, Apr 28, 2008
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Everything they have said about T-mac has been true... Not really an eye opener.. T-mac is only half himself from the Orlando days... You guys forgot that this is the same T-mac that couldn't drive past Derrick Fisher when he was with Utah last year..

I was at game 7 and he had and 1 on 1 with Fisher.. The man couldn't even get past him on several occasions.. Derrick old man Fisher

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Well there you go. This article reveals a lot:

-McGrady needs to learn to keep his gameplan to himself. Don't show any weaknesses in the game or in the media. Telling the media what's bothering you is basically doing one half of Utah's job. All they need to do is execute.

Hopefully, this is enough fuel to keep McGrady in "Hulk Mode." When he's not angry, he's Bruce Banner. If you knock him in his mouth and get him angry, he turns into the Incredible Hulk and plays more aggressively.

-Fouling is part of the Utah Jazz gameplan. David Stern, refs: TAKE NOTE.

-The Jazz players are a bunch of straight PUNKS. The trash talking gets louder and louder the more they feel they have the series.

Here's to the Rockets regaining clutch city form.
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That is why it will be so sweet when they b*tch *sses sitting at home watching the Rockets in the Second Round!

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#45 Rocket River, Apr 28, 2008
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5734894.html

ak47:
"I like it. Yeah, yeah. I like it," Kirilenko said. "We are really paying attention to him. I think we are doing a great defensive job, forcing him to play physical. We know he does not like that. Foul him sometimes.

"I think what we have seen in this series is he is set or stuck in this kind of a game and it's not going to be easy for him to do anything with the ball."

he also said tmac's disappearance in the 4th has become a "tradition"

deron:
"I'm happy he only got one shot (in the fourth quarter)," said the Jazz's Deron Williams. "I am surprised. I thought he'd be a little more aggressive. I know he talked about being more aggressive to (the media)."

"These are the playoffs, man," Williams said. "You've got to step it up. I'm definitely glad T-Mac has said he had no legs, because that's our game plan — try to wear him out. All the guys — Ronnie Brewer, Matt Harpring, AK — they all did a good job on him. He shot 9-for-25 and we've got to be happy with that."

brewer:
"I'm kind of surprised," Brewer said. "Because I think they're a team that pretty much goes whatever way T-Mac goes. We'd rather have somebody else try to beat us than have T-Mac take over the game and get 50 points. If he's not going to be able to get it going, we'll take it. It's worked so far in the series."

ah man, if tmac does not step up in game 5 in teh 4th after these scrubs said these things, he should just retire.
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T-mac will blaze them in game 5

#46 TmacsRockets, Apr 28, 2008
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I'm tired of hearing about how Tracy is banged up. So was Deron Williams the other night(did you see him limping in the 4th quarter?). Yet he still managed to blow by the Rockets defenders late in the game and make two huge buckets. And considering the final margin was 4 points, that was your ballgame right there.

Tracy has Kyle Freaking Korver on him for part of the game. Other times he has Matt Harpring guarding him. These are two players T-Mac should be able to blow by at will. But he doesn't.

Look at the play the other night when the Rockets got a stop and Mehmet Okur went down on the floor and didn't get up right away. The Rockets had a 5-on-4 advantage. T-Mac has the ball. And what happens? Nothing! He just dribbled on the perimeter and allowed Okur to get back so the Jazz could set up their defense.

It's not about his physical limitations. It's his mental deficiencies that are holding him back. If Tracy were using his brain, he'd know that he's a 33% 3-point shooter AT BEST. And he'd stop jacking them up(which not coincidentally he did in the Rockets' lone win in this series). He'd know that dribbling around at the 3-point line for 15 seconds like Steve Francis is not the way to beat the Jazz defense. He'd concentrate when he got to the foul line so that his free throw shooting percentage wouldn't be hovering in Shaq territory.

More than the fact that he's lost a step(or two), this postseason is finally proving what I've been suspecting all along. T-Mac is weak mentally. I don't think it's that he lacks the desire to win. He is trying out there. But he doesn't step it up to the degree that the truly great ones do. The true superstars don't care about fatigue or injuries. They overcome that because the mere thought of losing is more painful than any bruised knee or sore back.

Does anyone here think T-Mac could play through the flu like MJ did in Game 5 against Utah? Or a badly sprained ankle like Isiah in Game 6 against L.A.? Or even a broken pinky like Kobe's done this year since the All-Star Break? Hell no! The man would shut it down immediately.

Ultimately, T-Mac is a lot like David Robinson. Good teammate. Puts up great numbers in the regular season. But doesn't have the fire or the intensity to be the best when it really matters. I don't think trading him is an option, so the Rockets have to pray that Yao Ming not only stays healthy next season, but can be the one to have that killer instinct that his fellow superstar clearly lacks.
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Two Excellent Point
that play did piss me off

and he is David Robinson [I would not say ewing .. i don't hate the man]
To Kobe and Lebron's - Hakeem [just an analogy . . neither are truly HAKEEM!]

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Hopefully T-Mac puts those quotes in size 72 font in front his locker and hangs 60.

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Ha ha..." tradition "...

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tmac cant even drive by kyle "no D" korver SMG

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Man, give me a break. McGrady has definitely lost a step but add on to the fact the he is playing on a bum knee (which he can't even feel) and a bum shoulder.

I can't believe Utah is talking. Our best three players are injured and they are barely getting by. I' am not impressed.

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Poor Tmac, never gets a break. He tried to save his 4th quarter FG% by taking only one shot and all the jazzholes would rag him about it.

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Man, give me a break. McGrady has definitely lost a step but add on to the fact the he is playing on a bum knee (which he can't even feel) and a bum shoulder.

I can't believe Utah is talking. Our best three players are injured and they are barely getting by. I' am not impressed.
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Seriously. T-Mac has his problems. He's not the kind of guy who would use those quotes as motivation and then go drop 50 or something like that. That's too bad because he probably could if he wanted to, no one knows how badly he is injured.

However, since Rafer came back, even if he is not 100%, these games IN UTAH have been decided 2 and 4 points. Hardly decisive victories either way. We are playing without the best center in the league (who is probably itching to show Okur up from last season, because you know, he has that competitive spirit) and we played without our PG in games 1 and 2, and no matter how many of you want to deny it, a somewhat injured T-Mac. This series was 1 rebound and 1 made FG away from being 2-2 heading back to Toyota Center.

The Jazz players should stop talking. Yeah T-Mac has his faults. But if Yao were here, hell if Rafer played all 4 games, this series would have been a lot different. They are barely getting by a completely demolished team. Not impressive. They'll get swept by the Lakers if they play them. Or lose in 5.

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Again, give the Jazz their props. They're not doubling McGrady and leaving his teammates open. They're playing a bunch of guys on him in single coverage and just trading off every quarter. The defender stays relatively fresh since they're rotating the coverage of the Rockets' first option, McGrady gets uncomfortable/frustrated and eventually tired and they don't leave anyone else open.

I posted elsewhere that McGrady's big problem is that he can no longer drive effectively. If the Utah defender can stay in front of him in single coverage then about all he can do is try to pass, and no double coverage means no open Rockets.

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Tmac, I know you may feel a little lost right now and you have been doubting youself. Stop overthinking everything. Don't try to please the media or the fans or anybody else. Don't let'em mess up with your mind. All you got to do is go out there and play with confidence and energy. Everything will eventually work out. Your breakthrough is right at the corner.

#55 marciagong, Apr 28, 2008
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Every year we heard TMac is injured. Will he ever get healthy again?
Look at his numbers over years, I wouldn't bet on that.

Kobe's playing with 9 fingers and that doesn't bother him. When you are
paid 20M/y, just suck it up, man.

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Unfortunately, the sad reality is Tmac cant takeover anymore.

Even last year, I remember Tmac had "on nights" where he lit up whoever and whenever. And that was even less impressive than the year before.

But After the last 10 games, I have come to the sad realisation that Tmac cant "light" anyone up no more, at least not on the scale of what he use to be able to do.

He got 7 points in the 4th quarter lasst time and people were like "whoa this guy exploded", Exploded in the past would have meant "14 points" or something like that. 7 points was just normal for him in the past.

Tmac can still do everything else very well, especially passing, but he is not the offensive force that puts fear into the opponent, i am afraid

but prove me wrong PLEASE
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I'm tired of hearing about how Tracy is banged up. So was Deron Williams the other night(did you see him limping in the 4th quarter?). Yet he still managed to blow by the Rockets defenders late in the game and make two huge buckets. And considering the final margin was 4 points, that was your ballgame right there.

Tracy has Kyle Freaking Korver on him for part of the game. Other times he has Matt Harpring guarding him. These are two players T-Mac should be able to blow by at will. But he doesn't.

Look at the play the other night when the Rockets got a stop and Mehmet Okur went down on the floor and didn't get up right away. The Rockets had a 5-on-4 advantage. T-Mac has the ball. And what happens? Nothing! He just dribbled on the perimeter and allowed Okur to get back so the Jazz could set up their defense.

It's not about his physical limitations. It's his mental deficiencies that are holding him back. If Tracy were using his brain, he'd know that he's a 33% 3-point shooter AT BEST. And he'd stop jacking them up(which not coincidentally he did in the Rockets' lone win in this series). He'd know that dribbling around at the 3-point line for 15 seconds like Steve Francis is not the way to beat the Jazz defense. He'd concentrate when he got to the foul line so that his free throw shooting percentage wouldn't be hovering in Shaq territory.

More than the fact that he's lost a step(or two), this postseason is finally proving what I've been suspecting all along. T-Mac is weak mentally. I don't think it's that he lacks the desire to win. He is trying out there. But he doesn't step it up to the degree that the truly great ones do. The true superstars don't care about fatigue or injuries. They overcome that because the mere thought of losing is more painful than any bruised knee or sore back.

Does anyone here think T-Mac could play through the flu like MJ did in Game 5 against Utah? Or a badly sprained ankle like Isiah in Game 6 against L.A.? Or even a broken pinky like Kobe's done this year since the All-Star Break? Hell no! The man would shut it down immediately.

Ultimately, T-Mac is a lot like David Robinson. Good teammate. Puts up great numbers in the regular season. But doesn't have the fire or the intensity to be the best when it really matters. I don't think trading him is an option, so the Rockets have to pray that Yao Ming not only stays healthy next season, but can be the one to have that killer instinct that his fellow superstar clearly lacks.
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Let's put it this way : He doesn't desire to the degree that's needed to win.

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H-townhero said:

Well it's basically 5 v 1 so I'm not really suprised
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and the winner is H-townhero. finally someone on the board is actually seeing the game and understanding the game. We should all give this man a standing ovation.

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people or fans in houston are so fair whether type of fans one minute u are on the bandwagon then the next minute you are off just does not make any sense

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and the winner is H-townhero. finally someone on the board is actually seeing the game and understanding the game. We should all give this man a standing ovation.
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sarcasm?

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