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[Chron] James game no slam dunk

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yaowaming, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. anitasri

    anitasri Member

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    So if we signed someone who Toronto Likes for the TE- Will it work?
     
  2. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    If we somhow were able S&T James for the 4.2 mill Trade exception, it'll be a coupe.great day for the franchise and it's fans. that will still leave our MLE to go after a Big PF. however, i doubt it'll happen.
     
  3. blazer_ben

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    Obviously a play has to be involved. you cant just trade the TE by it self. it's used to equliaze the salar of both players?... not really sure. i think you cant just trade the TE by it self.
     
  4. Hottoddie

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    Guys guys guys, you're making me real nervous. MJ had a great year last year, but he's 31 years old. Does anyone really want to give a 31 y/o shooter a 6 year deal? His legs will be the first thing to go, & once a shooters legs start to fade, so does his shot. The only way I give him a 6 year deal is, if I get a team option in years 4-6, & it's highly unlikely that he would accept that. The response in that article tends to make me think he's going for the gold & will leave us holding the bag.

    We've been used by FA's in the past & shouldn't let that happen again. I sure hope the Rockets aren't going to let this negotiation drag out & cause us to miss out on all the other quality FA's. They've got to set a deadline for this deal to happen & walk away from it once that time comes. He's already given up some of his leverage by coming out & saying how much he wants to return to Houston. Or, is he using that as leverage to get Dallas to up their offer?

    As for PG's, there are possible trade options out there. The first one I'd try to get would be Brevin Knight (doubtful, but you never know). If not him, then I'd inquire about Jeff McInnis. With Kidd & the newly acquired Marcus Williams, NJ might consider trading him for the TE. I believe they're over the cap & might be interested in dealing him. McInnis is in his last year & if he doesn't work out, we just let him walk after the season. Also, prior to last year's injury shortened season, McInnis had a much better A/TO ratio than MJ has ever had.

    MJ is a shooter first & a PG second. While I like MJ's game, I'm not willing to sell out the team's future for him. At some point, the Rocket's have got to stop giving out the ridiculous contracts that keep biting us in the posterior.

    But, that's just my opinion.
     
  5. blazer_ben

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    Maybe a player dosent have to be involved?.. didnt we trade Moochie for a chunk of the TE by itself?.. no player was involved there?
     
  6. blazer_ben

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    The rockets wanna win now and at all costs. they see the pros are more then the cons in giving james a lengthy deal. i agree with them if were seriouse about winning now, we need the likes of mike jame's of the league.
     
  7. crash5179

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    A trade exception can not be used in conjunction with another player or another trade exception. It can be used by itself or with a draft pick.
     
  8. hooroo

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    moochie was traded for lampe.
     
  9. blazer_ben

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    Thats Interesting. thanks.
     
  10. m_cable

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    Read one of my posts above. James isn't eligible for a 6 year deal from anybody because Toronto doesn't have his full Bird rights.
     
  11. blazer_ben

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    True. Lampe is the forgotten Foot solidier it seems. never got a chance.
     
  12. tigermission1

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    Because of the age factor (he's 31), I would think the Rockets are in favor of offering Mike James more money in a shorter contract (3 years would be ideal) than less money over a longer contract (MLE for 5 years or something along those lines).

    I wouldn't mind paying MJ 6-7 mil a year for three years or so and not have to keep him around until he's 36.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    We dont have the option of doing that. Because we have to use the MLE or the TE our best recourse to get James is "added years." We can't up the monetary value up front because we are not under the cap to do so.
     
  14. H-Dub

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    YOU are a freaking idiot fransico elson over drew gooden! I dont even know what to say to that except dude can i have a hit of what you are smoking! I mean come on Gooden is only 24 has a great yes i said great all around game he can get you 14ppg 10boards and 1bpg! If we can get him and we dont man thats aweful and if we give the mle to francisco elson i would blow my legs off!
     
  15. H-Dub

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    Id like to give up a lottery protected first to get mj in here! So we could still use our mle!
     
  16. tricky

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    This may have been done already:

    Dallas Morning News:

    "Mike James, who played last season for Toronto, has been offered the Mavericks' mid-level exception, worth about $5.5 million. The hang-up, apparently, is length of contract."
     
  17. Hottoddie

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    Hmmm, must've missed that one. In any event, I wouldn't give him any more than 3 years guaranteed.

    In my opinion, Claxton might be the best long term option out there & Knight/McInnis might be the more reasonable "win now" options. This team needs depth & can't afford to do any S&T's that involve sending more players out.

    Looking at some of the available FA's, I like Songaila(PF), Greg Buckner(SG/SF), Reggie Evans(PF), Francisco Elson(RFA) (PF/C), Cato(PF/C), Jim Jackson(SG/SF), Claxton(PG), Harpring(SF), Jared Jeffries(PF), & of course, MJ.

    There are too many options available to us to get locked into a long negotiating process. With the exception of Evans, MJ, & Elson(RFA), we should be able to pick up any of those players for a very reasonable price.
     
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    I've said it before, Drew Gooden is Stromile with ADD. He would be a disaster under JVG.
     
  19. mag

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    As we continue giving up on youth this franchise will take longer and longer to recover.

    I don't understand why people is ok with giving up young talent just trying to get to the playoffs and get kicked in the first round.

    There is no way the way this team is being built will be able to pass the first round of the playoffs.
     
  20. crash5179

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    Does anyone know if the Rockets have made a preliminary offer?

    They say the early bird gets the worm. Add that to the fact that Mark Cuban is very aggressive going after players that he wants and it all points to one thing....

    CD, Morey, Les and JVG had better get off their ass and make something happen with Mike before Cuban does!
     

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