[Chron]Gundy: Players should enjoy win + Spanoulis wasn't good

Like hell. JVG won a power struggle against his own GM (Ernie Grunfeld). Grunfeld quit/resigned. From 1999 onwards, the Knicks were JVG's team; the total devastation that ensued was entirely on JVG.

 

I disagree.

 

There has been talk that JVG has lost his power to make personnel decisions and that now rests with CD & Darryl Morey. I do agree that CD & Rudy left this team in not very good shape - the low % of successful draft picks has been hashed to death - Griffin for 3 1sts being the worst.

But JVG had his own string of some good and some really bad signings, leading to his diminished role as I think Les & Co. tired of playing and paying old Knicks retreads like Charlie Ward, etc. The Ryan Bowen signing was not exactly a big winner. Overall JVG showed his hand of never signing young talent and growing it for the next 1-5 yrs.

Les and Morey could see the writing on the wall of ending up with a team of 33 to 37 year old ex-Knicks living in our hottubs alongside Derek Anderson.

Personally I think Morey did an excellent job this summer except for being short changed by Jerry West. He paid with a $20 bill, was supposed to get back $16 but Jerry stiffed him on either the $5 or the $10. Time will tell.

 

Wow threat title made my heart skip a beat...nice to hear that from JVG.. i hope this makes him change his stubborn ways in the future.

 

All your disagreement can't erase JVG's power struggle with his own GM. A real team player, that JVG.

 

I sure hope JVG is now out of the loop on personnel decisions. I suspect this started two summers ago, with the drafting of Luther. Given JVG's past history, I would not be surprised to learn that he was campaigning hard to trade that pick for some short-term help.

I like Battier, but I still wish we had gotten more for Gay+Stro.

 

Nobody's perfect. At least Rudy T left us a ton of young talent: Yao, Francis, Mobley, Griffin, Boki.

In contrast, when JVG quit, the Knicks were left holding a really stinky bag: Mark Jackson (36 years old), Latrell Sprewell (30), Allen Houston (29 with 99 year old knees). And absolutely no young, rising stars.

 

Another thought: isn't it amusing -- and more than a little hypocritical -- that Mister Teamwork, the coach who demands absolute obedience from his players, is the same guy who did a Bonzi on his own GM?

 

Van Gundlier, you're just hoping to spread enough confusion to allow you to run out the clock.

No matter how much obscuring ink you try to squirt into the water, the fact is that Rudy T left us a ton of young talent, and JVG left the Knicks with a ton of Geritol cases (and nothing else).

You might protest that none of the Knicks that Gundy left behind were his fault. That would be George Bush-like plausible deniability -- until somebody remembers that Gundy has tried it again on the Rockets. Who can forget his attempt to load us up with creaking veterans like Ward, Oakley, Strickland, MJackson, Brunson, etc. etc. etc. ?

 

Disagree. And he was 24-19 in LA before he left that job. Not too bad, considering the roster.

 

Rudy T got alcohol problem when he was coaching Lakers?

 

I support you on all your Van Gundy cheerleading, but the drunk comment was highly inappropriate and ruins all your pro-JVG comments. Sad.

 

Not a nice coach = 2 Championships.
Nice coach you worship = 0 championship.

I will take the guy who won the championship any day and twice during playoffs!

With the completely inappropriate "drunk ass" comment on one of the ALL-TIME Rocket Great, all the blind pro-JVG comment, and your screenname, I am to beginning to wonder if you are a member of JVG family!

Will you still support the Rockets after JVG quits/gets fired or will you pack your bags and leave with him?

 

Even more annoying are people who make strawman arguments. Nobody has denied that Rudy left behind plenty of problems. But you make up that false position and attack it, hoping that nobody will notice that you were beating up your own creation.