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[Chron]Gundy: Players should enjoy win + Spanoulis wasn't good

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Van Gundier, Nov 23, 2006.

  1. Van Gundier

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    Heh... you beat me to the point differential :)
     
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  3. terse

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    And the regular 4th quarter, 15-point collapses are what they are. These are not what-ifs, they are fact. If we don't fix them, I will continue to worry. Does JVG have a plan to fix the collapses? As far as I can tell, no -- and this is the most worrying of all.

    (Actually, JVG may have a "plan": to play somebody he didn't want to have in the first place and did his best to ignore (VSpan).)


    The point is, the Spurs hit way more than they miss (Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Horry, etc. etc. etc.). With JVG, it's the other way around, which is why our roster is so unstable.


    JJ was gone the next year because of some kind of personality dispute (rumor); I don't call that "fitting in". JVG didn't even want Hayes in the first place; that was why he cut him. And Barry and Wesley didn't last two full seasons with us; I wouldn't hold them up as examples of non-roster-churn if I were you.

    Because our kids will not develop as quickly without the help from our superstars.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
  4. terse

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    Early season stats are unreliable. (We were lucky to catch Dallas in a post-finals funk.)

    But there is no excuse for regularly blowing huge leads in the 4th quarter. If we don't fix that tendency, we will be in big trouble. This is why I worry; our gaudy 8-4 record is mostly a product of luck.
     
  5. Van Gundier

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    Just to clarify, I wasn't calling you a racist. I was just making a joke about the Great White Hope Syndrome that NBA fans seems to suffer from.

    Particularly, the Rockets fans have had "Play VSpan!!" "Put Novak In!!" "Develop Boki!!!" and my favorte "I've seen the future and his name is Dan Langhi!" (Sorry DD :))
     
  6. Amel

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    lol

    gundier puttin some work on you guys
     
  7. terse

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    Yeah, I picked the Spurs and Popovich because the contrast with JVG -- in method and results -- is so sharp. :D

    And let's not forget that the Spurs took care to develop their young talent; their core players -- Duncan, Parker, Ginobili -- were 100% grown in house.
     
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    Hopefully spanoulis will take bonzi's supposed b**** ass spot on the roster. :mad:
     
  9. NewYorker

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    10 games is a prolonged wait for a Rookie? Please...Kobe is a lot better then VSPAN and even he had to wait longer to get playing time.

    JVG didn't make any mistakes here. No one is complaining except for people with an irrational hate for JVG - and they will hate him no matter what. Even if JVG wins a championship - they will find a way to claim JVG deserves no credit. Why do YOF's and so many of the Chinese posters in particular hate JVG?????
     
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    I understand your point BUT Phil Jackson wasn't coaching Koby in his early years so that pretty much takes away your point.

    V-Span has a way to go though. He is still very early in his NBA carrier.
     
  11. NewYorker

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    Yeah i know, i edited it but you posted a response to quickly.
     
  12. NewYorker

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    If you make any mention of race here, these guys will call you a racist and hunt you down on every thread to defame you. it's insane.
     
  13. terse

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    Zero minutes in 10 games is a long benching, yes. And no matter what JVG was saying, VSpan was ready to go -- as the kid has proven by his instant contributions. JVG was just neglecting his rookies, as usual. Doesn't JVG's seven years in NY of consistent neglect offer enough history to judge him by?

    By the way, Kobe played 1103 minutes in his rookie year. VSpan may match that now -- but only because Snyder's injury has finally forced JVG to admit the obvious.

    And as I said, now that VSpan has proven himself, you JVG lovers have suddenly stopped trying to justify his benching. Isn't that interesting? :D :D :D
     
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    Big different also was that kobe was a teenager coming out of high school and vspan is a seasoned international and euro player.
     
  15. NewYorker

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    VSPAN's benching was totally justified and totally worked. It forced VSPAN to work on his turnovers....and let's also remember one thing - JVG didn't bring VSPAN in to play the pt guard. He brought him in to play the 2-guard.

    But really, we need him at the point - which he still isn't ready to play.

    So before you start patting yourself on your back, remember that he's only in the rotation to fill and injury need. He needs to still work in order to be able to play the point.

    And also, don't be so happy about synder's injury.

    I don't understand why all of you JVG haters want him out as coach. One has to think you would rather coach the team yourself.
     
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    I thought about it.
    No.
     
  18. Panda

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    It's not justified because of benefits/costs. Giving VSpan regular minutes and pull him out when the TO problem acts up will force him to work on TO's, with more contributions than the zero minutes policy.

    The TOs' impact is a relative thing. Francis could throw up 8 turnovers and still play 40 minutes. It's stupid to worry about TOs when our perimeter defense was getting picked apart.

    Don't try to think like JVG or you will be dumber in the same way of his flawed thinking.
     
  19. Zboy

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    LOL!

    Nice! :D
     
  20. Zboy

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    One was a high schooler coming into the NBA. He wasnt ready physically or mentally! Other is a much older rookie with international experience.

    Pathetic comparison at best!

    Is that why JVG himself seems to be surprised? Ha!

    Lots of rationality in that statement coming from someone who is complaining about irrationality! *laugh*

    Typical Anti-Chinese propaganda from NewYorker!

    Damn...NewYorker's posts are too easy to rip apart!
     

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