Pure fantasy! We coach, manage, play. It is like a verbal video game. And who knows who may be lurking here. If I were a player or a coach it would be irresistable. Keep it up DaDa, you might get VY here afterall!
Hey, I'm with you. I was just pointing out the fallacy in Mr. Clutch's argument. If we're not supposed to post stuff like DaDakota is because Casserly's not reading the board, then what's the point of posting at all?
Why was it so bad that I said someone a college football player wants to be the #1 overall pick because they will get more money? If it wasn't about the money then these players would have stayed in school 1 more year. Correct?
Who wouldn't want to play in their hometown? Sure these guys make a sick amount of money, but if VY wants to play here, I don't assume it is because of the money. And I'm one of the ones that want Bush.
They make a ton of money if their career is successful. If they suck then they get one contract and they are done. Whether its VY or Bush i'm sure being the #1 overall pick outweighs going to your hometeam. Didnt Bush say he wanted to go to SF because he wanted to stay in Cali and also would like to play with his old high school teammate? And then someone said he waited so long to actually declare because he was afraid the Texans weren't going to take him #1, he wanted to be #1 more than he wanted to go to SF. But you guys say VY is different, correct?
Do you believe that? Or do you believe he didn't stay because after that Rose Bowl perfomance, his stock will never be higher?
but why don't you think the guy just wants to play for his hometown team, assuming that he did come out because his stock will never be higher. its not like it has to be one or the other.
People know i'm on the Reggie Bush side of things overall and are taking what i'm saying in this thread as a negative towards VY. That is not my intention. My thought is, regardless of who you are, coming out of college, getting your 1st contract, the money is the most important thing. IMO. I'm sure many many people in the pro sports world will agree.
At every level of competition, people have come up with their own reasons as to why Vince Young couldn't or wouldn't succeed. And they've all been wrong. Embarrassingly wrong. And what about Reggie Bush? Surely if Vince can't do what he did in college against NFL defenses, then Reggie, who racked up all of his yards against sh*tty Pac-10 defenses, won't be able to either. How many mesmerizing performances does Vince have to throw in front of people before they get it? I don't know why anyone was shocked or surprised by what he did to USC in the Rose Bowl. It's only the exact same thing he did to Michigan in last year's Rose Bowl, and the exact same thing he did all year long. Every time a so-called "expert" has said Vince Young can't do something, he's proven them wrong. Every single time. The NFL won't be any different. As for the Texans, this should be a no-brainer. Reggie Bush was an outstanding college football player. There's no question about that. But he cannot do for the Texans what Vince Young can do for the Texans, in terms of making them a successful franchise. It really is as simple as that. They would be fools not to draft him, and the city of Houston will hit the ceiling if they don't.
Dude, these guys will get paid no matter WHICH team drafts them. They're already set for life. Alex Smith (#1) got 6 years, $49.5 million. Ronnie Brown (#2) got 5 years, $34 million. Braylon Edwards (#3) reportedly got 5 years, $40 million. Since you're keen on throwing out wild assumptions, I'll throw out one of my own: If the Texans had the #2 pick, Vince would still be lobbying the Texans to draft him. If the Texans had the #4 pick, Vince would still be lobbying the Texans to draft him. That's the definition of "wanting to play for my hometown."
but why does that prevent him for wanting to play for his hometown team for the sake of playing at home. i'm not arguing he doesn't want to be number one for the sake of being number one, why can't it be both.
Alex smith - 6 years 49.5 million Ronnie Brown - 5 years 34 million Which would you rather have? Me saying that a player wants to get the most money possible in his 1st contract is a "wild assumption"?
I definitely think he wants to play for his hometown team, but I also think that one thing has to outweight the other. If the draft positions were flip flopped, say as just for example Miami had the #1 pick and Houston had #5 and they said you can get 5yrs $50 million to go to Miami or 5 years $25 million and go to Houston what would he want to do? Does one outweigh the other in this situation?
I did a search and found what you are talking about, haven't read that thread in awhile. I replied for you. Nice to know you are following me around.
Of course one does. But, nobody but Vince Young knows which one does. I'll grant you that for 9 out of 10 mercenaries (err, professional athletes) the money certainly outweighs any other factor. But you and I don't know into which category VY fits--the 90% or the 10%.
You're an easy man to find. All I have to do is look for the words "Vince Young" or "Reggie Bush" and follow the smell of feces...
Ok well I believe that when it comes to your 1st contract, everyone falls into the 100% money side of things. But to many this makes it seem like i'm bashing VY which I am not. I said the same thing about RB, to me, right now its all about the money regardless of who you are. Once you are oldder and actually "set for life" then playing for your hometown or playing for a winning team puts you back to 50%/50% area.
while this could be true, VY has given absolutely no indication so far that this has anything to do $$$ as opposed to wanting to play for his hometown team. but great job pulling that out of your a$$.
