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Chron: Francis Has Score To Settle

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ron413, Dec 3, 2003.

  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Megan Manfull got Steve to say a mouthfull.
    Francis has stuck his foot so far down his throat that he couldn't cross his legs, much less crossover somebody.

    Going by the quotes in this piece, Van Gundy must be working on an ulcer, a seizure, a heart attack or any combination of the three. I'm close to getting into the "trade Francis! The guy is an a$$-clown!!" camp. Someone get us a point guard who plays like a point guard.

    Please.
     
  2. silvercatt

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    Steve you poor pathetic fool. How could you make those arrogant comments after you got out played and out foxed by those rookies who are still adjusting to life in the NBA. Does anybody know what size is Steve's cranium? I'm going to get him some brown bags.
     
  3. jli

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    can we get one of them ? They have three outstanding PGs, and we have none.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    SCREW YOU GUYS

    I WANT STEVE TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY WHEN HE GETS LIT UP!!!

    I want him to be determined to SHUT THEM DOWN and SHUT THEM UP!

    Only thing I want Steve to do different is
    NOT TRY TO OUT SCORE THEM BY HITTING 30
    BUT
    TRY TO OUT SCORE THEM BY LIMITING THEM TO 5 pts ON DEFENSE

    beyond that . . .I HAVE NOT PROBLEM WITH HIS ATTITUDE ON THIS

    Rocket River
    and that is the Truth Ruth!!
     
  5. sweetie

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    Im a manfull also:D
     
  6. buddry

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    God, I am getting tired of reading this crap. Every other thread is dump on Steve crap. You guys disect everything Steve says just to bring him down. Lets be grown ups. This site no longer looks like a rocket fan site. More like a rockets landfill. :(
     
  7. rvpals

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    Exactly right.

    Somehow I see Francis try to get revenge tonight and play right into Utah's hand.
     
  8. pgabriel

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    So now, you don't want Steve to care when he gets outplayed by sub-par point guards. You guys are the jackasses. You will complain about anything.
     
  9. Juugie

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    Exactly.

    If Yao would have said that he took it personally being outplayed by Osterfat and that he guaranteed he'd be ready the next time, those same poster would be claiming how great it was and would be all excited the game.

    Those same posters want Yao to take it personally and outplay every opponent. Those same people that say it's not about points, it's about winning are the same ones that start "Why Yao doesn't get enough shots" posts even after the Rockets have won.

    If you hate a guy just admit you hate him and quit trying to dig up reasons to put him down.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    The usual posts trying to twists Steve's positive comments into selfishness and something bad has happened again.

    At that level every night should be a battle, and Steve should take it personally. They outplayed him, and he didn't like it. Good for Steve.

    The only question is how he gets his revenge. If he goes the Stephon Marbury route and tries to score at the expense of the team then Steve does not get revenge. But if Steve plays smart and outplays these guys for a Rockets win, then we are all winners.

    As far as Steve saying that the some of the leauge's top PG's are aiming at Steve he is correct. Some people tried to slam Steve for that comment, but Marbury selfishly goes after Steve at the expense of his team every time they meet now.
     
  11. droxford

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    Ah, but did any of you catch the failure on Van Gundy's part?

    Anyone? Anyone?

    here ya go....

    Jeff should be making sure that our players are properly prepared for their opponenets! It's Steve AND Jeff's fault that our guards weren't prepared for Utah! Jeff should be lighting a fire under their asses for each game!

    And, to put it bluntly, I don't think Steve's performance will be any better this time around - I think his talent level has decreased dramatically, he's lost his hunger, and he's become complacent.

    -- droxford
     
  12. Juugie

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    Steve's talent level is still there. He isn't complacent. He's just been beaten down and torn down by people like many here that have been calling him selfish and stupid to the point where he has lost his confidence. He has lost his aggressiveness. He now hesitates every time before he shoots or drives.

    If I could tell the guy anything, I would say $#@$ everyone else. Take your man any time you can. Any time you are open shoot. People are going to criticise you no matter what you do, so you might as well play your game.

    I'm reminded of a quote from Vernon Maxwell. After the Rockets had lost the first two games at home of a playoff series against Phoenix - blowing 20 point leads in each. A reporter asked Vernon about his strategy. Mad Max said if we're going to go down, we're going to go down taking our best shots - and our worst shots too.

    Steve, don't leave any bullets in the chamber. Go out there, compete, take all your shots and let the chips fall where they may.
     
  13. Nova

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    Steve SHOULD take this personally. I just hope he doesn't try to do too much himself, but damn it would be nice to see him playing with more fire and aggressiveness. I want him taking it to the rack and getting ft's. Yao is not ready to take over yet and be the man, sure he needs to have a much bigger role than he had last season, but he's not ready to carry the team. Francis seems to be bogged down with trying to figure out how he should play and what his role is as a pg. He needs to let the natural game come to him and he'll be all the better for it. Right now he can't see to do anything right, he needs to take a step back and tell himself to just play his game. If that means taking more shots and scoring, fine, at least he was playing much better (in assists as well mind you) when he was doing that, and we need someone taking that really aggressive stance on the offensive end. Yao isn't being aggressive, Cat isn't as aggressive (which is what most ppl here wanted anyways, he's a role-player now), and Cato sure as hell isn't gonna handle the offensive load.
     
  14. MFW2310

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    The next time Yao plays Ostertag, he gets more boards, play better D, get mroe assists and score more points on his measley 9.8 shots per game by shooting a higher percentage. When Yao gets outplayed he says I played bad and I'm sad the team lost, I'll try to play better and HELP THE TEAM WIN next time. When SF gets outplayed, which is happening with amazing frequency I might add, he says I got outplayd cuz I DIDN'T PREPARE AGAINST SCRUBS WHO TORCHED ME, but I didn't do all that bad, I'll torch him/them next time and it ain't matter how the team does. It's pathetic that you are even trying to justify they are one and the same.
     
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    MadMax was a key contributor to 2 championship teams. Steve has done what?
     
  16. pgabriel

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    MadMax was only a key contributor to the first championship, if your going to criticize someone else's post, at least know what you are talking about.
     
  17. droxford

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    As far as "taking it personally" is concerned... Every minute that any Rocket player is on the floor, he should be giving everything he has to his game. He (the Rockets player) should never be playing certain opponents harder than others - he should be playing them all with equal, ferocious intensity.

    Do the Lakers back down from any oppontents? No. Do they play softer on some opponents, and harder on others? No. Do they back down after they have a 15 point lead? No. Are they 14 and 3 ? Yes.

    -- droxford
     
  18. Juugie

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    It's okay to be humble... to a point.

    When the Spurs gave David Robinson his MVP award in front of Dream to start the playoff series between the Spurs and Rockets, Dream said within himself, I'm going to ROAST this SOB. I'm the real MVP and I'm going to whip this chumps ASS and prove it to everyone. He did this knowing that if he did that we would win the series as well.

    And I guarantee you that if SF goes off and gets 30 and dominates his position, we'll have a much better chance to win than if he has 10.
     
  19. Juugie

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    The Lakers do take it personally. Ask San Antonio and Sacramento. The Lakers play much harder against those two teams than they do against the Wizards. It's human nature.
     
  20. droxford

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    Don't misunderstand me - just 'cause a Rocket does or doesn't take it personally, that doesn't mean he should give more to his game against one opponent than any other.

    -- droxford
     

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