[CHRON / Fox News] Rockets have preliminary talks with Adelman

I know who Pete Carril is. He wasn't an offensive coordinator for the Kings. He was basically an on court consultant who took naps on the bench during games.

 

You say tomato....I say tomato........

DD

 

Working hard is great, but you have to work smart too. JVG was too reluctant to change his ways, which ultimately led to his so called demise.

The system that players play in can maximize their abilities. Look at the Kings back in the days. I think someone has mentioned before that collectively they are much better than they are as individual pieces. That's what a system can do for you, the same goes for the Suns and the Warriors.

 

Working hard is great but talent is better. You can teach a player with great talent to work hard but a crap player who works hard like say a Chuck Hayes really can't give you much when all is said and done.

I don't want players with intangibles as much as I want players with "tangibles".

 

I really hope all of this isn't reactionary, while I think the team could be better with a bit more dynamic offense, it seems that we may just be trading one weakness for another with Adelman. The fact is that our rosters are not as deep as those of Spurs, Phoenix, Utah and Dallas, changing coaches and moving the ball on offense doesn't change the fact that we need a roster that goes 9 or 10 deep in the west.

Barring a Phoenix winning three in a row against the Spurs, it looks like once again its going to be the defense orientated squad that makes it to the finals so that still has to be our identity and focus if we hope to win. Adelman may make things prettier but not necessarily better.

 

Didn't Sacramento have the #1 ranked defense in 02-03? That too with Vlade Divac as their center.

 

When Adelman steps in as the Houston Rockets coach, I expect Yao Ming to do crossovers, no look passes and put-back dunks!

 

true, the roster isnt talented or deep/versatile enough. Certainly it doesnt have enough offensive weapons that lend to a more diversified offense...simply they dont have many options.

But yes once again we see the majority of the best teams still alive are all strong defensive teams...pistons, bulls, cleveland, spurs and jazz.

 

Having a new coach also means there will be new players that are brought in. Maybe finally, we can decide to bring in some offensive punch instead of all these tweeners who are only one dimensional in terms of ability.

 

i have doubts that jvg was against bringing in offensive players.

 

So you think the reason we don't have role players like Stackhouse, Brent Barry, Fisher, and Harpring is because we chose not to?

 

He brought in Charlie Ward, Marc Jackson, Weatherspoon, Ryan Bowen, Oakley, Wesley, and Barry. These players are all past it, yet they were brought in because they have JVG DNA imprinted all over them. The fact is, I don't think Les/CD would of even thought of those players if not for JVG. The real problem is, JVG tries to bring his players to fit his system, instead of adapting to a more up offensive game.

 

You're preaching to the choir.

 

This is wrong on so many levels. San Antonio plays good defense but they also play good offense.

Defense oriented?

I say balanced.

The Rockets are defense oriented....the Spurs are balanced.

DD

 

he got those players here b/c when he arrived the team was completely incompetent. lazy mo-tay, lazy cato, do-whatever-i-want francis, etc...it makes sense for a coach to bring in players he is familiar with when they take over a team that doesnt have much to it. Same thing kubiak did with the texans. its a very common practice. Still, with those moves the rockets did make the playoffs...something they hadnt done before in a while.

 

What Adelman Will Bring to the Rox
1. Yao as more of a passing center (think Brad whatshisname)
2. Shane Battier with shots at the top of the key (think Webber)
3. A more athletic PG - every Adelman team requires this
4. More bench atheleticism
5. Faster tempo higher outpout offense

What We Might Lose In JVG
1. Our league leading D
2. Our offense centered around Yao
3. Our inability to defend pick and roll
4. A less two-superstar oriented team
5. Rafer Alston

-theSAGE

 

You mean that lazy incompetent team that won 43 games during Yao's rookie year that JVG immediatly improved to a whopping 45 games the next year as coincidently Yao improved.

Yeah...BIG IMPROVEMENT........

DD

 

improvement is improvement. 45 will always be > than 43 and playoffs will always be > no playoffs.

 

Close, they were second in defensive efficiency. They were middle of the pack in defensive FG percentage, but defended the three well, were one of the best rebounding teams in the league and top 10 in steals.

http://www.basketballreference.com/leagues/leagueyear.htm?lg=N&yr=2002

 

If getting to the playoffs is our only goal, then yes, I would agree with you. But rebuilding takes a lot more than just putting in stop gaps. I'm not sure where the Texans stand in today's NFL, but I know for a fact that they are not a contender.

Look at Utah. They only took 3 years to rebuild, and now they are in the western conference finals. They went out of their way to get the pieces they needed with Williams, Boozer, and Okur. The built a team to win, not just to get to the playoffs.