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[CHRON / Fox News] Rockets have preliminary talks with Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by clutch citizen, May 15, 2007.

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  1. ooliverb1

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    Michael Jordan sucked in Wizard;
    Shaq sucked this year in Heat;
    Even Dream was not good in Toronto.
     
  2. MadMax

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    i think it will take entirely new featured superstars to play the kind of basketball that i think many of you think of when you think of rick adelman.

    i don't see this roster being able to play like the sacramento kings did.

    i think this roster...and these superstars...are better off with van gundy.

    if it's time to move on from yao and/or tracy, that's an entirely different matter. but i don't see adelman coming in here and getting that style of hoops to work when those are your two go-to guys.
     
  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Not Vspan, I have more of problem not devoping Snyder, Boki, and Novak.

    Mentioning Yao Ming is stupid. JVG has nothing to do with him getting better. It has to do with Yao being a diligent worker that got in better shape. It has to do with him being a rookie the year before JVG. In my opinion, Yao has regressed some in skills. All his improvement has come from being in better condition and experience. You didn't notice Yao improving towards the end of his rookie year?

    Chuck Hayes has not improved. He's always been a hustle guy and his rebounding rate has actually gone down. How has he improved.

    Mutumbo's resurgence has nothing to do with JVG. What did JVG do to make Mutumbo better?
     
  4. Amel

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    I don't get this

    what does this have anything to do with Adelman?

    rockbox put it out great, Adelman makes his guys put the best on the court, I hope he does that here too
     
  5. doublebogey

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    oh well, u can keep argue along he has no reponsiblities for any roaster changes or whatsoever. I mean, I wont waste time on it.

    But he's gone. It's good for you. So you may start throwing away your TV, DVD until he's back coaching again. That will save you some time so you can enroll in courses like logic 101 & management 101.
     
  6. Nick

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    Yep, you're right... whenver the player improves, its all because of them. But when he gets worse, its all on the coach. :rolleyes:

    I can say the same thing for every single player on the list you just mentioned for Sacramento. I can also say that they either got old or injured as to reasons why they were worse after Sacramento. Hell, Bobby Jackson ripped us apart this year with the Hornets. Bibby still held his own in the games we faced him this year. Webber's career has been revived in Detroit.

    The bottom line is we still need more viable NBA-ready talent regardless... especially if you want Adelman to be able to run his system.
     
  7. Nick

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    So, JVG was the GM? Its his fault we're talentless? Then by all means he should go.
     
  8. opticon

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    Im excited to see what adleman can do with novak. we may have the second comeing of peja sans the bad back rideing our bench as we speak.
     
  9. doublebogey

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    with van gundy? WTF! four seasons van gundy is not enough. He got his chances - 3 1st round playoff exit.

    As for Adelman, I wont prefer Larrry Brown. Rick Carlislie ahead of him. They may take lesser time to tweak the roaster to get in full speed.

    But I am not worry about Adelman. He will always design plays to play to the players' strength.
     
  10. camp77

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    I kinda agree and kinda disagree...they did play superior team defense with AK47 or Millsap coming over to help block shots when Okur/Boozer or whoever was guarding Yao (was it Collins?)....and we didn't really have anyone that could guard D. Williams one-on-one or Boozer for that matter.

    but TMac and Yao were the better players...and when they brought in Harpring and Giricek they out hustled us almost everytime. It was really about matchups, and the matchups pretty much favored Utah all the way around...TMac is only good for so many minutes and Yao had a couple of bad games...but when Okur is raining 3's and Boozer is hitting everything, they're a tough matchup for almost anyone with the improved play of D. Williams.
     
  11. doublebogey

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    nobody with a sense will buy your crap.
     
  12. Nick

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    its not for sale... its free knowledge... that every knowledgeable poster here agrees with.

    We need talent to match up with the big guns in the west... particularly at PG and PF. If you don't believe it, stand by your V-span and Chuck Hayes... they're the next Cassell and Horry, in case you didn't hear.
     
  13. Amel

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    we will see

    I think everyone will get another chance, the bench guys and the starters

    we might see an overhaul and I'm really positive about it...
     
  14. Amel

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    hey nick

    how would you see a successful season next year

    what would you do?
     
  15. doublebogey

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    Doesnt seem so to me. what's the poll for "who want JVG gone"? 73% people want him gone.

    U can alway keep your eyes close and murmuring the same words again, again and again. But let me tell you one thing - dont let the light hurt you when u open your eyes.

    btw, i dont stand by any Chuck Hayes, V Span stuff. I really dont care. All I care is the results.
     
  16. pasox2

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    Things are working out.

    Adelman got good performance from Artest and Bonzi. Bring them both. Get Artest with K9 or Shareef for Howard and Battier. Pick up SF3 if he is cut. Bring back Bonzi. Trade Alston for Mike James

    Yao/Jake
    K9/Hayes
    Tmac/Artest/Novak
    Artest/Bonzi/Head
    SF3/James/Vpsan

    That's enough talent to slash and cut, pass and score, available on the cheap.
     
  17. Nick

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    Upgrade the PG and PF positions... any way possible. If I had faith that this team was led by a competent GM who had a track record of making these types of moves, it would be much easier to forecast... but I can't.

    Honestly, I'd be happy if Yao and T-mac can get through the entire season unscathed. I know it didn't make a difference in the playoffs, but at some point they have to be able to do that (play an entire season together at a high level), or this experiment will ultimately be a failure.

    I'd also like to get shooters who can hit the open shot... and that pony, while you're at it :D .

    All the above reccomendations are warranted REGARDLESS of what style they're using, or who's coaching the team.
     
  18. geeimsobored

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    You want the Kings' power forwards who are arguably worse than ours. SAR is a slightly cheaper version of Juwan Howard who's even softer and Kenny Thomas is worthless outside of rebounding, and his contract is absurd. If you want a great rebounding power forward who can't do much else, just keep Chuck Hayes or trade for Reggie Evans.
     
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    We weren't winning **** with Gundy. Everyone blames the rest of the team/bench. Take some of the Utah bench you praise like Harping and put him on the Rockets and he is as much a dud as the rest of our bench. All he would be doing is sitting on the wings waiting for passes from T-Mac or Yao. In the Utah offense he is running through screens causing trouble for us inside.

    You complain about talent but you have a coach who takes a combative approach with his players. You bring someone in and Gundy decides he doesn't like him its a wasted move. We've had a lot talent flow through in the last few years.

    Gundy is never going to change. He has made that much clear. We can't win with Gundy's system in its current form. Why hang on if you can't win? Might as well shake things up.
     
  20. T-2

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    I agree, that's a grape point.
     

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