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CHRON: DWade understands what Tracy is going through!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t_mac1, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. verse

    verse Member

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    without a doubt...unequivocally...no.

    no question about that at all.

    doesn't preclude him from being on a rocket championship team, though.
     
  2. theREALDEALkid

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    "Mentally its Tough", exactly, Tracy's trying to do his best to come back at full strength and yet people still doubt him, if the Man didn't love ball he wouldn't have been in the NBA as long as he's been..you people say he dosen't give his all but he's hurt what do you want him to do, he played on 1 leg everygame..D-Wade can relate to him, no one thought he had it in him and tht he'd never be the same, and te same accusations are being made of Mcgrady whose only 2 years older.

    T-Mac played his hart out last year and you guys are gonna call him a quitter and say he has no love for ball you can't be serious. Do you really think if Tracy was 100% he would hve any reason to give up..i think not. People are gonna be singing a different tune a couple weeks from now.
     
  3. the_hustler

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    well said! although i am not backing Tracy rit now.. I agree with most of your points...

    But I am sure lotsa ppl here will find reasons to hate him.. ALWAYS.. and Tracy.. judging from reports and rumors.. is doing some damage to the locker room rit now.. that will add to the hatred..

    he seriously needs to get a PR coach IMHO
     
  4. Rocketman2002

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    Dude, did you see the Toronto game, where he give up on a defensive play on moon? How about the three possesion in a row where he just stand near the half court line? Please dont tell me he didnt quit on the team. If i didnt see it with my own two eye, I would never have believe it. Now he gonna have to earn back the fans trust.
     
  5. flamingdts

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    He quit on the game, thats for sure, no one should argue about that. However, it was already a blowout, and considering how mentally weak McGrady is, he may have given up hope for the game.

    That being said, there is a difference between quiting the game and quiting the team.
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    Comic gold?
     
  7. ibm

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    this is really a stupid piece by feigen imo.

    there have been enough negative talks about this team already, why write such a worthless piece, with no new info at all, just to keep many talking about them?

    and what else do you expect wade to say? "okay, my injures were a lot severe and i wish mcgrady could've handled his differently"?
     
  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    He left his teammates out to dry, while taking a huge crap on our Rockets legacy...



    If he plays hard, He can shoot 2 for 87 for all I care.......
    I just want passion and professionalism...
    If personal pride does not make him play hard, 20 million should......
     
  9. the_hustler

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    Actually.. I think the organization is trying to improve Tracy's image among rockets fans..

    Someone (DD?) already mentioned that the organization will try to improve tracy's image when he took 2 weeks off ...

    maybe that..
     
  10. the_hustler

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    I think "King" Solomon wrote it.. not Feigan..
     
  11. ambrose86

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    Tracy has said it, in his mind he did not quit his team on that night, and I believed him. Sometimes when your body does not hold up, and I've had relatable experience wif an ACL injury, your mind just cannot control your body.

    Listen, I am not defending Tracy Mcgrady's play in Toronto. It was a horrible performance and Tracy knows it himself. But what I am saying is that it is not inexcusable. Yes, it was wrong and he could've done better. But that doesn't mean he deserved to be flamed by so many people including possibly his wife :p .

    All I'm saying is after reading Dwade's comments, especially the part about how he cannot control his body wif his mind, makes me sympathetic towards t-mac. And we all should. And I have some faith that he'll come back this season
     
  12. verse

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    dwade has no rocket affiliation.

    the fact that this piece is at least attempting to shed some light on mcgrady's side, imo, is responsible journalism. asking someone who was is a "similar" position as mcgrady is perfectly fair. for all feigen knew, dwade couldve come out and called mac a b****. who knows? but he didn't.

    good lord, at least try to balance the equation by telling all sides to the story.
     
  13. Yao4REAL

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    Tmac is injured-prone, Dwayne is not!!
    Tmac is fragile, Dwayne is not!!
    Tmac is not competitive, Dwayne is not!!
    Tmac is lazy, Dwayne is not!!
    Tmac doesn't have the will, Dwayne is not!!
    Tmac give up, Dwayne is not!!

    'Nough said!!
     
  14. Tom Bombadillo

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    I, on the other hand, did not........
    He has quit before this game, and he will quit again...
    Hopefully, it is not in a Rockets uniform...
     
  15. verse

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    fair enough. next time that...

    yao misses a layup he shouldve dunked, or
    shane decides to wear his Corner 3 Concrete Nikes, or
    ron decides to ditch the O for a game, or
    rafer decides he's larry bird, or
    carl decides he has scola's hops,

    I expect to see you here, asking for their dismissal.

    the magnifier's on mac. I'm not excusing what he did. he did NOT give 100%. that sucks. it should be reprimanded by the coach harshly...privately...and forcefully. but I'm also realistic about it. all these guys have mailed in games before. it's not asymptomatic to mac. it's a reflection of the damn team!
     
  16. verse

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    hehe. moniker irony.

    goodnite.........
     
  17. Tom Bombadillo

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    Realistic? Hardly...
    No one has "mailed in games" in that matter ever since I have
    been a Rocket fan...Which is quite a long time...

    DD put it nicely...
    Do you notice anything strange when Tracy is on the floor? Observations?
    I may be crazy, But it seems like EVERYONE plays harder and has more
    fun playing hard, when Tracy is not on the floor...
     
  18. flamingdts

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    No he can't shoot for 2 for 87 for all he cared. The loss is put on him no matter what, if he shot for 5/15, you're seeing another "T-mac sucks" thread for another day or two.

    You want passion and professionalism? McGrady hasn't been providing it this year, but he sure hell has been providing more for the Rockets than Yao ever did for the past few years.

    Let me ask you a question, how many times have you seen blames put on Tracy for our team's horrible performance? Playoffs last year, playoffs the year before. Despite our odds against the Jazz, we gave them a good fight. When we lost, our fans threw all the lame on McGrady, again.

    Nowadays it's all about T-mac apologists riding his jock, but nowadays "realistic fans" as they call themselves are haters that use "realistic" as an excuse to throw in all kinds of childish immature insults, then call it off by claiming they just want Rockets to win.

    Everyone wants rockets to win. If that is the case, the fans should start acting like it.

    There are only a few that care enough to stay out of both sides, or be the true "realistic fans". From the insults you're getting, you'd think half of this forums fans fantasize about giving Bondage to T-mac and calling him dirty names.
     
  19. the_hustler

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    that does it..

    I am no T-Mac apologist but this is a lil unfair dude..

    why don't you blame others for that ? I know Tracy sucks in terms of effort most of the times.. i know you blame him for not showing effort for the 21 million he gets..

    but what bout others? they also get paid for what they are? now why can't they show effort EVEN when Tracy is on the floor? afterall. they get paid for it.. rit?
     
  20. verse

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    if I go to the post office, personal mailbox, or blue box on the corner...im still mailing it in. like I said, his actions were reprehensible. but no moreso, to me, than when others don't give their all on the court either. it is unacceptable for any of them.

    tmac being on the court doesn't make yao decide that tonight is Layup Night. nor does it make rafer decide he's bird 2.0. that's mailing in a game, too, cause these guys don't always give 100% either. absolutely unnacceptable, to me, for any of them to do that and it is incumbent on the staff to rip them a new one when it happens.

    question: why was mac allowed to stay on the court??

    he should've been immediately pulled and reprimanded, but was not. why do you think he wasnt...in the face of this behavior? imo, its because he did no worse than what the others do when they mail in games. effort is effort. when yao decides he can be gaurded by 6'9 small forwards and held to 12 points and 4 boards, that's a lack of effort just the same. yet none of these guys have been called to the mat in a game. who knows? maybe privately they get scolded. maybe. but I won't single out mac when I see a prevailing attitude throughout the team. and I look to the staff to nip that immediately.

    also, you ask about players' effort being higher w/o mac. to me, that's a function of our team knowing they have to play harder without mac being there. they admittedly defer too much to mac because of his talent. that's no fault of tmacs. that, again, comes down to the staff cracking the whip on these guys for NOT playing as hard when he's out there. do you not see the lax, laissez faire approach of the staff?
     

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