[Chron] Don't rule out a trade despite Rockets' recent run

Had a comment in another thread that he feels there is a 70% chance Rondo is in a Rockets uniform by end of deadline.

His source = his dad works for Berman.

 

What assets exactly?

Asik who hasn't been playing anyways.

Lin's offense would easily be replaced by Rondo.

How would this "set" the team back for years?

 

The general NBA player peaks at 27.5 years of age. Bigs, especially centers who do not overly rely on athleticism peak much closer to 30.

 

Didn't he break the dwight howard to rockets. This did is legit. He said dwight to houston was a done deal and that this guy that works
With Herman told him

 

I can see Rondo being here. We all know McHale has a hard on for him. He is who McHale really wanted in the Garnett trade. Morey likes him too because of all the advanced stats. The fact that both Morey and Mchale have a close relationship with Ainge probably makes it easier. Those guys must talk all the time.

 

He didn't "break" Berman. But he was inside the "loop" at the time and basically confirmed it.

The breaking of the news would go to "Doc Rocket" or the "barber". The Howard thread was easily the best thread since I joined in 2008.

 

So you think the best he'll ever be is in his second year in the NBA? Well that's one theory.

What "advanced stats" are you talking about? If you look at his numbers when he started getting legit minutes on a regular basis, he looks pretty solid. Maybe you value garbage time stats more than I do though.

 

I think this team needs Rondo's personality more so than his play(although his play is superior than any PG we have had in a long time). My one knock on this team that I have had for a while now, is that they are soft. This team lacks the veteran leadership that you would want from Dwight. You need that Alpha male personality in game 6 in the playoffs to avoid elimination. Nothing better than a playoff tested point guard like Rondo. At the end of the day, you can trust him in the playoffs. Beverley and Lin, not so much. It would be a smart move to grab a veteran pg before the deadline. This one just happens to be a great one.

 

Asik who is now playing and is still one of the better defensive centers in the game....
Lin who can shoot better than Dwight Howard, unlike Rondo....

Ditching valuable pieces like that on a guy who is an awful fit for the team who is coming off a serious knee injury that relies on his athleticism for almost all of his value in the league is a VERY risky proposition. You kill your depth at the 5 while making your team worse and potentially start problems in the locker room. I'd rather just not.

 

You kill your depth by adding a player who is more valuable than Asik and Lin combined?

Rondo improved his shot over the offseason, and has never relied on his athletic ability. He has relied on his intelligence/length to become a good team defender as well as point guard in the half court setting.

 

I am sorry but Rondo has played a grand total of 272 minutes this season. You incorrectly assert that he has improved his shot this season. Actually he has not. He probably will improve to his career mean though, but that is a really poor mean.

 

Yeah unless Rondo also plays the backup 5 he's pretty much killing the depth....and that's IF he works out at the 1 on this team which isn't a given.

You can think that he all of a sudden learned how to shoot in his 8th season, or you can realize that a few games doesn't make him better. I mean how about we talk about how much Howard has improved his shooting in the offseason, he's shooting 40% from 3!!!!

 

I base my opinion out of the reports from Boston, and the fact that Morey wants Rondo in Houston.

Rondo is much more valuable than his three point percentage. His mentality will push this team over the edge. Its weakest position on the court every night is the one. Rondo is a top 5 pg when healthy.

 

I love it when someone advocates for the Rockets to have a rotation of Howard, Jones and ? at the center and power forward positions. The Rockets would be basically kissing their season goodbye.

 

First Rondo has not improved his shot. He has not shot better than 24% his last 4 years. If anything he is worse than his first three years. Second you overate Rondo's value to this specific team in this era.

Hey I love Rondo. He was my selection over Rudy gay back in the day of Morey's first draft. But he does not fit this team. Your assessment that Morey wants Rondo is incorrect unless he is cheap and we can get a lot more 3 point shooters. Morey wants three point shooters to compliment Harden and Howard. he wants players to help unclog the paint. He wants players that stretch the floor and make defenses pay for cheating on Harden and Howard.Rondo is not that guy. Not at all.

We need a pg that can hit threes. Part of the reason I want to trade Lin is because after a hot start he has drifted down to a below average 3 point shooter. If he could hit 40% I would be on we need to keep Lin bandwagon. Give me Dragic over Lin not Rondo. Not with Howard on the team. And besides it will never happen with Morey at the helm. Morey only values two shots. Three pointers and shots in the paint.

With Harden and Howard there's no more room in the paint. Which leaves him at the arc. No one will guard him. No one has to guard him. Beverly has a better chance of being guarded. It's all about spacing or the lack therof with Rondo on the floor. Besides why trade for Rondo when we have Beverly. Yes Rondo is a better passer but Beverly is just as good a defender and he is a is a better three point shooter and is younger and cheaper and we already have him so we don't have to give up anything to get him.

The trade off on passing and shooting threes is a wash IMO. Even if you give Rondos game an overall edge. It's not this great edge that some on here claim. Not for this team. Again Rondo's man will never guard him and always double on Howard. It's what I would do if I was coach. Double off the weakest 3 point shooter.

It's the whole reason Morey is looking for a 3 point shooting wing and Brewer gets no minutes. It's the whole reason they tried to use skinny Casspi as a 4. If Casspi shot 40% from behind the arc DMo would still be on the bench. Morey believes in the three. All of his analytics say it's the best shot outside of a dunk. Morey is actively looking for 3 point shooters to trade for now. Morey has no interest in Rondo especially at the asking price.

Yes Rondo brings a lot to the table. Unfortunately most of it we don't need. Rondo does not fit the Morey way. Yeah you can make it work if sign Kevin Love and Korver but without that Rondo is an all over negative. The Rockets were stupid to let Dragic walk. Of course that's hindsight but only a little. Morey would not be stupid enough to take on an overvalued Rondo.

 

It is time to bring Covington back and see what he has on Garcia minutes. We need better role players and if Covington can help out in that area of concern, let's find out.

 

Stats & having a 3point shot may not get you this rep, but leaving it all on the floor in the playoffs, showing heart & hustle will.

NBA champion (2008)
4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010–2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
2× NBA assists leader (2012-2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)

 

I don't know what this tells you but the only things it tells me is that

1) He was on a really good team, which we all know
2) He's a really good defender, which we all know
3) He's a ball dominant pass first guard, which we all know

I don't see how any of those things are a reason that he'd fit on the Rockets because it's all things we already know and things we don't really need, and certainly not at the price it would cost us.

 

LOL!

Rockets defensive woes are perimeter related. Rondo-Check
The Rockets half court offense is blah-Rondo-Check
The Rockets point guards are not reliable in the big game- Rondo-Check
The Rocket lack toughness needed to get past the big game- Rondo Check

Please go back to the Texans forum.