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CHRON: David Carr extended 3 years

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ktvoss, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. swilkins

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    Is that what you call "reggietodd's Law"?

    ;)
     
  2. Smokey

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    Edit - I hope VY goes to the Titans. I'd like to rejoin the Oilers family.
     
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  3. Blatz

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    So when the Texans draft Vince Young I guess it would be safe to say that you will be disappointed?



    :)

    I'll be happy
     
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  4. Stoli

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    I agree wholeheartedly. Wish we had the Oilers. Although they did trade Moon for 4th and 5th round draft picks, a travesty, they never made such horrible decisions as the Texans seem to do at every turn. You don't have to be a football expert to see this. Just have a little bit of common sense. What the Texans leadership seems to be completely lacking. Bottom line, McNair wanted Carr, so we've got Carr. How could Kubiak disagree with the man in charge? It was the reason McNair hired him. To rehabilitate Carr. Period.
     
  5. Stoli

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    David Carr is no Steve Young.
     
  6. Stoli

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    That's bull****. The Texans have beaten all the true fan out of me. At some point you have to say enough is enough.
     
  7. Stoli

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    The Texans kill me. But no way I can root for Dallas.
     
  8. Stoli

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    Yeah, but Bush will play for getting paid, not sit on the bench for a couple of years. I prefer Vince either way.
     
  9. Stoli

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    Amen. How can you feel a connection to the Texabs when they kill you with every move they make. They're running the franchise into the ground.
     
  10. Stoli

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    David is part of the problem, not the solution. He's also part responsible for the sacks. And damaged goods at this point.
     
  11. Stoli

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    Love this post. So true.
     
  12. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    I hope they take neither Bush or Young, trade the pick for as many picks they can get, and beef up the O and D lines.

    A good tackle, a strong pass rusher...some more picks next year.

    The best teams are the teams that attack the ball on defense, put pressure on the opposing QB, create turnovers, and wreak havoc. If you have a defense like that and a good O-line that controls the line of scrimmage and creates holes for your decent running back (Davis) which then frees up the passing game.

    Everybody really knows what wins football games...its not one player at either RB or QB, but its solid team defense and good ball control offense.

    That being said...I'm more intrigued with Bush than Young if we had to take either. You could maximize his contribution as a RB, slot receiver, punt and kick returner. The guy could be the new Marshall Faulk for total yards from scrimmage AND your return guy. Heck, don't use him as your third down back...put him in the slot on the same side as Johnson on third down. You'd have two deep TD threats on one side of the field on every third down. It would help protect Carr...put them on his blindside to prevent blitzes from that side...and you'd still have DD in the backfield who I think we can all agree is still a very serviceable back. But that just intrigues me.

    I'd rather come out of this draft with a slew of O and D linemen (which the draft is deep in) plus some extra picks for next year if possible. If you could end up with 2 first rounders next year (yours and someone elses) you would be gold, especially with a draft that is predicted to be very deep next year.

    Oh, and all this third down business with Bush is crud. Barry Sanders wasn't a third down or red zone guy, but I bet the Texans would take him in his prime.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Trading the pick would be a HORRIBLE idea....Vince and Reggie are two players who are probably as much of a lock for being stars as you can get.

    Once you get lower than that, it is a crap shoot, and Casserly has not proven himself lately....Derrick Johnson ring a bell?

    I wish they would go the Patriots route and get good young free agents that are professionals and coach em up.

    DD
     
  14. kevwun

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    I know nothing about Reggie, huh? You explain to me why Lendale White was gashing Texas up the middle the entire Rose Bowl, yet Reggie bounced everything outside. Did those gaping holes magically disappear when Reggie came on to the field? Why was the heisman winning Gayle Sayers clone on the bench for the biggest play of USC's season? I think the future #1 overall pick should be able to get 2 yards against a college defense.
     
  15. Stoli

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    Amen, brother.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Vince got 8 !!

    :D
     
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    Because lendale white is a first round caliber running back especially when it comes to getting two yards. It wasn't some scrub they turned to. It was the best power back in the country. You are ignorant if you do not realize that
     
  18. gr8-1

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    Damn right. Carr has a much stronger arm. :D
     
  19. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Cmon. There is NO such thing as a sure thing. That sure thing QB had a great Rose Bowl, but a few weeks before he threw for 162 yards and had 2 turnovers against A&M...the 109th defense in the nation...against like the 160th passing defense in the nation. Not to mention he rushed for like 20 yards on 11 carries or something like that. That was a huge game...it was against a rival and a must win to go to the National Championship. If you only think about the great games, you have to remember the crap games too, and they were only a few weeks apart. So if you drop the two outliers...his season was great, but not first pick great.

    And Bush, before the Rose Bowl, was EASILY the consensus number 1 pick, whether Young came out or not. He didn't even have a bad Rose Bowl. He had like 80 yards on 12 or 13 carries and almost 100 yards receiving, not to mention that SICK touchdown he scored. Texas did not stop Reggie Bush. But for some reason there's an argument against him being the #1 pick. But we see he's not a sure thing either...He could be next Barry Sanders or the next Vaughn Dunbar.

    I have never seen ONE freaking game change so many people's minds about a draft. I just can't see people wanting VY so much except that he's from Houston and went to UT. If he had been playing for Florida and grew up in Miami, Bush would still be everyones #1 pick.

    When the Cowboys traded Walker, he was the best prospect in years and had already proven himself at the NFL level, but his career tapered off pretty well, while the Cowboys took a bunch of picks and turned it into a dynasty.

    I'm not saying that they would get a Walker like deal, but when you have as many holes as a mesh colander like the Texans do...several good young players are worth more than one impact player...even if he does pan out.
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    It is not a crappy argument. Compare the #1 picks who went for QBs versus RBs. Those QBs have like 15 super bowl victories to ZERO for RBs. Anomolie my ass.

    A football team is made of 22 guys plus special teamers. A QB can't win on his own, but if you don't think a QB has more influence than any other single player I don't know what to tell you.

    BTW most of your guys I mentioned already. Further Montana won SBs before Craig or Rice arrived. Now name be ONE RB who carried a team who didn't have a great defense and great oline to even a single superbowl appearence. In their primes as great as they were, Campbell couldn't do it, nor could OJ, Walter, Sanders, Dickerson, etc. Those were freaking great players, much better than any backs playing now. You can win a superbowl without a great QB every once in a while IF everything else falls in place (elite defense, great Oline and some decent skill players), but every multiple superbowl winner (and probably even every multiple superbowl appearer like Marino) had a pro-bowl caliber QB with them.
     
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