rt, Anything is subject to change. They said a while back that they were going to exercise his option. They never said that if they did so, it would affect the draft. There is too much time between now and the draft. I know you want Reggie. I do too, but this is not the nail on the coffin. If you believe it is, it will only hurt more when you don't get what you want. However, I haven't seen anyone admit that they would give up the Texans, if they didn't draft Bush. There might be some, but I haven't seen anyone admit it. By extending Carr, you are leaving options open, between now and later. By not signing Carr, you are admitting that you gave up on him and limiting your options. The Texans are not going to admit to making a mistake. They are going to give him another chance. It just tells me that VY wouldn't play his first year.
Your case would be true if Carr was extended for 2 years. There was an option of extending to 2 or 3 years. Obviously 2 makes him more tradeable, 3 does not.
okay, this has nothing to do with vince young or a trade or whatever. so the texans want to stick with carr, understandable. why did they give him a three year deal when they could have given him two. what if he doesn't turn it around. there is no reason to go that third year. if carr does turn out to be top tier, who cares if you could have had him cheaper for one year. that's just stupid. its like they are going out of their way to justify that pick.
This is such a BS arguement. Let's look at your list: Montana - Rice, Taylor, Craig, Rathman, Clark Elway - 0fer until they got TD - and you left him off the list Brady - a bunch of solid talent though no real SSs Bradshaw- Franco Harris - HOF back Swan and Stallworth HOF WRs Stauchbach - don't remember much about him before my time Marino - did not win a SB Aikman - can you say Emmit Smith- NFLs leading rusher - laundry list of star players on his teams Farve - only won one in all his years: same as Bettis McNabb - 0 -1 McNair - 0 -1 same as Alexander Peyton - 0 - 0 same as Edge (coincidence?) The QB is an overrated position - probably the most overrated in sports in general. A bad QB will lose you a ton of games - no question, but even the great ones need someone to block, someone to catch, someone to get open. Take Montana for instance, the famous "catch" by Clark, wasn't an awesome pinpoint pass, it was an awesome leaping catch - but Montana gets most of the credit. Let's talk about the other great QBs that haven't won SBs, Marino, Fouts, Anderson, Esiason, Tarkenton, Kelly, Moon, Kosar ect.. It is tough to say if Elway would have won one with out TD, and Elway is my favorite QB of all time. Also, I like this quote: "It is much more often a team with a great QB, but ordinary or flat sucky RBs win it." Can you name one other than Brady? There haven't been too many I can think of that fit this criteria- great QB crappy RB superbowl winner.
Why? I actually think that's support the case even more. Think of it like this; If Carr does have a productive year and his value does go up, his contract might not be as bad in comparison to the future contracts in the NFL. Just adding another perspective. This is pure speculation.
You might be asking for us to try to understand what goes on in Cass's head. Who knows? In all seriousness, everyone has their reasons. Carr's 2 vs. 3 is nothing compared to some crazy deals in the past. If he has a productive year, it just won't matter to some of the teams interested.
Maybe, maybe not. A team that is interested in Carr might want him a little longer than 2 years, especially if they are giving up something big for him. Whatever team deals for him (if any) will probably be looking for him to be there for a while, and it's just an extra year before you have to re-do a contract and bonus.
How can anyone dislike the guy? Or not root for him? Dude, is cool, never missed his radio show no matter how bad the Texans played, he never said anything stupid like "we had some problems with protection". As a matter of fact, he would always say his line played well no matter how bad they played, he never called out his WRs when they dropped easy passes, and always took resposibility for all of his mistakes, that's leadership too. And all you guys saying all past great QBs were #1 picks, what pick was David Carr? I'm cool with David Carr and Reggie Bush.
18-46 as a starter. You can say all the right things and never miss a radio show, but winning is all that matters to me.
The reason they extended him for 3 years is because they are gonna keep him and jack up his stats this year under Kubiak. This will increase his trade value threefold. Vince will sit on the bench watching David for a year. Then we'll trade David after next year to a team that needs a very, very good starting QB and we will get back some prime talent/picks because of it. It's another Staubach/Morton situation looming except this time with a good season from Carr, we will be trading him at the height of his value not when his value is down.
Its not about that. I'll be fine regardless of who they get because i'm a fan of the team. Its not going to hurt me one way or another. The point is, the writing is on the wall, it couldn't be any more clear that we aren't drafting a quarterback. I simply cannot believe that people actually think we can sign Carr to this extension and still draft VY or trade Carr. It isn't happening.
I hope the Texans make a trade for an additional 1st round pick. They're going to need Lendale White so they can put him in for Reggie when they're in the redzone and on key 3rd and 4th downs.
I guess there are twofaces to every response. To just say that (when he hasn't been given the right supporting cast and coaching to his ability) might be stretching it a bit. If that is your opinion, though...
Do you not read anybody else's posts that contradict your beliefs? The fact is that the Texans COULD NOT trade Carr w/o the extension. I'm not saying they will trade Carr, but signing him to this extension gives us that option, not signing him lets him walk right out the door. What's unbelievable about that? What's more irrational in your point of view: people who think we can still draft VY and/or trade Carr or people who think the Texans have completely made up their mind 3 months to the draft and won't even consider anything else? Kinda funny how you said that us VY-fans still wouldn't believe it if McNair came out and said we're drafting Bush. But I guess that doesn't work the other way around, does it? "McNair (on considering drafting a quarterback) “Well, we’ll consider anything. Again, we’ll make that evaluation as to how we can put together the strongest team we can. San Diego’s got Drew Brees and Phil Rivers. You need two good quarterbacks. But all the options are available. We’re going to look at all the players and the coaches, Charley and the scouts are going to look at all the players. Charley’s role is to get the players that Coach thinks will help us win. And that’s what we’re all about. We’re going to build a championship team. We’ll do whatever it takes to do that and we’ll keep all of our options open. And who knows, if someone wants to give us a Godfather trade offer, they might have the number one pick. It’s just a question of what’s available to us at that point in time and what is the value to the Texans.”
Dude was just taking a jab at the Rose Bowl performance, and why he wasn't in there for key 3rd down plays.
So if the Texans draft Vince Young are you going to be the biggest Texans fan or is your hatred for the Texans pretty firm?
