We have to get a deal worked out, im grateful that he signed the one-year deal but this guy deserves to get paid!! Chilcutt
My bad, for some reason I thought he was an ERFA, and this was the end of his second season. Forgot he's a 3 year man now.
Right? Its so cute when kids watch Reggie Bush on Monday Night Football return a few punts for touchdowns and then go post on a message board about how Reggie Bush is such a great RB, and he's basically Barry Sanders... or they think how a Tight End is the most vital to the team's passing attack. Or how they think Wes Welker is the #3 WR for the Patriots. Kids and their little perceptions about football. teehee. so cute.
Owen Daniels just frees up an offense so well. It certainly has nothing to do with that mediocre Andre Johnson guy drawing any attention from the opposing secondary. If I'm a defensive coordinator and I see the Texans are the next opponent on the schedule I'm ****ting in my sweatpants just trying to come up with a coverage scheme that will limit Owen Daniels to sub 5 catches, 50 yards.
Dear Pimple Face, the TE is the option when your #1 is double teamed. Get a clue. If you don't have a good catching TE, your offense isn't that great. And you don't need to be sweating. Your pimples will multiply.
With our WR corps and Slaton at RB, the TE, regardless of who it is in the Texans offense, will have plenty of opportunities to shine. I dont think OD is that great of a talent. I believe he is replaceable. Having Casey in there wouldnt be too much of a drop off...and in time, it may actually be beneficial. OD just doesnt change the game...he is there and he does his job. Should he be paid top dollar? I dont think so. Save that money, get new draft picks, etc...
Its ok, the kids play their Madden video games these days and then they think they know how to run an NFL front office.
I looked at the top 5 passing offenses in the NFL last season and looked at how much TE's contributed to their offenses: 1. New Orleans TE accounted for 26% of the receptions and 23% of the receiving yards. 2. Arizona TE accounted for 6% of the receptions and 5% of the receiving yards. 3. Denver TE accounted for 19% of the receptions and 23% of the receiving yards. 4. Houston TE accounted for 22% of the receptions and 21% of the receiving yards. 5. Indy TE accounted for 27% of the receptions and 26% of the receiving yards. In general, you will see that the best passing teams in the NFL rely on their TE's less than a quarter of the time. I decided to look at the worst teams in the NFL in passing last year... Oakland: TE accounted for 30% of the receptions and 33% of the receiving yards. Cleveland: TE accounted for 31% of the receptions and 29% of the receiving yards. These two teams relied on their TEs for almost a third of their offensive production. What does this tell you? You dont need a TE to be successful with your air attack. In fact, it shows how important it is to have good WR/RB. Too many people think TE are a crucial part of an offense. Yes, they are important, but when you have a very good WR corp with an incredibly capable RB coming out of the backfield, spending big money on a TE seems to be a waste of resources.
Having a great receiving Tight End is similar to having a great hitting Catcher in baseball, they are rarely the backbone of the entire offense.
I really like the strategy the Texans are indicated to be taking in that article. If Daniel's contract demands really are that high, well they still have him for his one year tender offer. He may not like it and skip some OTA workout crap, but he won't sit out any preseason games or regular season games. That would hurt him too much. And a single season will likely be long enough to find out if any of the TEs we have outside of Daniels would be sufficient to replace him should it become obvious that an agreement can't be met. Dreesen, Casey...that other TE they drafted...any of them could step up enough in preseason or rare regular season plays here and there to indicate to the team that they could potentially give you close to the production that Daniels does. And hey, it's also possible that any of them might be as productive while also not fumbling at key moments.
Daniels is the most replaceable of the guys your trying to resign, by having James Casey on the roster.
Daniels remains a no-show at camp Tight end wants long-term deal with Texans By MEGAN MANFULL Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle June 15, 2009, 10:30PM Despite signing his $2.792 million tender, Texans tight end Owen Daniels did not show up for the team’s mandatory minicamp Monday. He remains unhappy with his current contract situation, and he is still waiting for a long-term deal to get negotiated. Daniels also skipped the final three organized team activities last week. “We’re happy he elected to come in and sign his tender and be part of this football team again,” Texans general manager Rick Smith said. “I’m a little disappointed he’s not here today, but again, we talked about how it’s a process and how complicated it is. At some point, I’m sure Owen will rejoin his teammates and be back and be a productive football player for us.” Because it is a mandatory minicamp, Smith said there will be “ramifications” for Daniels skipping. He will likely be fined. Daniels’ agent, Alan Herman, said as far as Daniels is concerned, his contract remains up. Herman, along with Dave Butz, is continuing to negotiate with Smith to get a long-term deal done. Herman said he is optimistic, but that recent reports have been inaccurate. The Chronicle reported that the Texans' offer would make Daniels the second-highest paid tight end in the league. “I’ve read reports in the media about the contract and they are not accurate,” Herman said. “We didn’t have anything to do with those reports. I’m hoping we can have professional dialogue with Rick to get this done. I think the key to getting something done is not to go over the details in the media. “As long as we keep it on a high level, there’s a chance to get something done. I’m kind of optimistic.” Smith also reiterated Monday that he wants to keep the negotiations private. He said he is still interested in coming to an agreement on a long-term deal with Daniels, but he did not want to disclose any details about the current talks. “We think Owen Daniels is one of the top tight ends in football,” Smith said. “And we think that he is a very important piece of our football team and our organization, and we’re going to try to put a deal together that’s reflective of that. “Our situation is that Owen is a big part of what we’re trying to do. I want to get a long-term deal. I’m very motivated to get that done. That has not changed.” Coach Gary Kubiak has structured this week’s minicamp so that it focuses primarily on players who are young, inexperienced in the system or returning from injuries. Veterans like Daniels do not have to practice, but they do have to report to the Reliant Stadium and participate in a few morning activities. Because Daniels signed his tender Friday, he will likely be fined for not attending minicamp. Had he not signed his tender, the team could not have fined him because he was not under contract. Daniels signed it for protection though. Monday was the first day the Texans had the ability to remove the tender from the table. Cornerback Dunta Robinson, who is also upset about his contract situation, did not show up for the mandatory minicamp, but he cannot be fined because he hasn’t signed his deal. There remains the potential that the Texans could go into training camp without Robinson or Daniels. Middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans is also unhappy with his contract situation, but he has participated in all of the offseason workouts. Kubiak said he will not worry about those who are not on the field with the team. And he said he won’t let any absences distract the rest of the team. “Will they be distractions? I won’t let that happen,” Kubiak said. “This team is working hard. If they are here, we’re going to coach the hell out of them. And we’re going to be a good football team. Nobody will distract the football team. “If they are not (here), they’re not. We don’t coach them. We’re going to coach the ones who are here.” http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6479538.html
Yeah, it's really one thing to not sign the tender, and not show up. It's quite another to SIGN the tender, and THEN not show up. The second you put pen to paper, you are now obliged to be a member of the team, and show up to mandatory practices. There are right ways and wrong ways to make a point. DeMeco is doing it the right way. Dunta (and now Owen) are doing it the wrong way.
In in the NFL I can totally side with the players. They really screw over the players so the players better get all they can while they can. If deMeco gets hurt in practice and is out for the season don't think the texans would show him any sympathy.
I understand that concept, but it's hard for any average person to side with someone who SIGNED a contract to make 2.4 million dollars over a year and doesn't show up for work. That's more than some middle-upper and upper class people make in ten years. And all because he wants 7 or 8 million a year as opposed to maybe 5.
when did pass-catching become the only method for measuring a TE's contribution? is blocking no longer an important component of offensive success? and you have the gall to throw down a "go play madden" taunt...? awesome - well played. i'd wager those teams would all rate their TEs invaluable in terms of what they're specifically trying to do offensively, and a significant reason for their success. the TE is certainly an integral part of what the texans are trying to do offensively, which is similiar to what the broncos did for many years - you know, when they had crappy, useless tights ends like shannon sharpe. i don't think owen daniels is worth the kind of money he's supposedly asking - but he's certainly a valuable part of what the texans are building; i'd argue moreso than dunta robinson (who i happen to think fans here vastly overrates).
