[Chron.com] Rockets move step closer to retaining Carl Landry

The biggest deal with going over the luxury tax threshhold is that all the luxury taxes that are paid is divied up by the teams that don't pay a luxury tax. So if Portland is 50 million over the luxury tax threshold, they are effectively paying all the other teams 2 million dollars that don't go over the luxury tax threshhold.

 

I say sign Landry to a 3.4 mil deal then trade him straight up to Milwaukee for C Villanueva. They want to move him now that Skiles is in as coach.

Villanueva is 6'11 and a much better scorer than Landry. No, he is not a physical beast, but he still gets his 6-7 boards a game (sometimes 10+). That would be a good scorer off the bench. Then look to move one or two of our expiring contracts plus Hayes and/or Head for a backup SG.

 

Hedo, Radman, Ricky Davis all signed the mle.

 

None of which are as good as Artest or Maggette. They are all also now worth more than the mle. I think Morey will sign Landry for most if not all the mle because he believes him to be better now than anybody else available at that cost and that he will be worth even more next year.

 

another issue is how to get a very good 2/3 backup. only thing we can do is to do a trade. however, we have to put a valuable piece into the trade to get a good value back. who do you think is a good asset to acquire a player rox really needs?

only one I can think about is landry. head might be one but i doubt. do you really think head is going to bring some special?

 

It does in some households.

 

head plays 2. we are looking 2/3, an upgrade over head. the other team will downgrade its 2 to help rox. it sounds weird but happened in the past, like paul gasol to lakers.

 

I don't think you got the joke......

 

Landry's playoff performance and gritty play even after getting his tooth knocked out earned him a huge payday.

 

It should be an offer just like Scola's. The situation now for Landry is just like the situation when the Rockets signed Scola: With all those stuff making people optimistic, there are something uncertain. For Scola, it was whether he could fit in NBA basketball. For Landry, it is whether he can stay healthy and play as well as he has shown. One season is too short to prove anything. Actually, it's half a season.

 

I agree with you. he played very well before injury but not after injury.

scola is different from landry. scola tried to find a way to score. scola has more tricks than landry.

 

Landry is not a good sign and trade option, because when you sign him he becomes a byc contract, meaning you can only use the value of his last contract when matching salaries in trade scenarios (this year anyway). Scola and Battier are the only guys outside of T-Mac and Yao that have enough value to get a significant SG, unless somebody is starved for expiring contracts. That is not usually the case until the trade deadline when teams are feeling like their seasons are lost. I doubt we get anything done until the trade deadline, because I think Rocket management is convinced that trying to win with our core is the only short term route to contention. I disagree, not that it matters.

 

keep him he is a huge help

 

We need keep Landry period. He is provide the energy and the motivation that
is needed to get a ring. Charlie of the Bucks are lazy and a severe defensive liability and cannot be compared to Landry. Landry is worth every cent based on his performance last season.

 

that's fine for us, we can dump some fat contracts to make it work and sametime, landry gets what he wants.

I doubt rox will dump battier or scola to get a better 2/3. remember we are looking a very good 2/3 backup. dumping our starter to get a backup doesn't make any sense.

 

i was in full swing to convince our fans here. kind lost my mind and didn't get it.

our fans tried to retain all good parts of this team and sametime dump all bad parts to get a good return. i always believe you get what you pay. i am a realisitc fan. landry is a real asset other team may be willing to give up sth. plus his agent demands quite alot, i don't want to tie to another fat contract if he eventually become a good backup 4 at most.

 

That's exactly it! We are paying an injury prone player who was no longer himself as soon as he was injured again. After his injury he never was the spark he was earlier in the year. Does he return to form? The question becomes how much exactly is he worth when you potentially drafted someone who could replace the energy he brought to the floor? Is securing the services of a wing player going to be more beneficial than keeping Landry at this point. It all comes down to how much are we going to have to pay him to keep him and what/who else will be able to add to the team?

 

A couple of clarifications:

1. As pointed out a couple of times already in previous pages of this thread, you are not allowed to use the
MLE (or other exceptions) to sign a player for a sign and trade deal. Since we don't have Landry's Bird rights, the only way that we can sign him is by using the MLE ( or another exception) and that would prevent us from doing a sign and trade for him.

2. For a BYC player's trade value to his old team you use either 50% of the first year in the new contract or the previous year's salary, whichever is greater. In this case, it would be 50% of the first year of the new contract.

 

aelliott, we just picked up Novak's option for a second year. Does that affect our ability to move him in a trade?

 

The Rockets acquired 6-7, 265-pound forward Joey Dorsey out of Memphis in a draft-night trade Thursday after Portland selected him with the 33rd pick. Dorsey, who is expected to compete for a spot in the lineup next season, could be viewed as an insurance policy against either further injury or a big outside contract offer to Landry.

Teams can begin making contact with free agents on Tuesday, but contracts can't officially be signed until July 9.

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