[Chron.com] Rockets move step closer to retaining Carl Landry

I totally agree......make him a fair offer.

DD

 

Frankly, I don't think Morey is planning on spending the MLE this year on anyone other than Landry. There simply isn't a full-MLE-or-above worthy guy out there who will accept the full MLE. People dream about Artest, Maggette, etc, but ask yourself this:

When is the last time somebody at that level accepted an MLE deal?

Morey has said it as much. You can argue whether he should or should not do it in your opinion. But it's pretty clear what Morey will do.

 

I think our upper limit is $3.5 Mill a year given how Luis Scola is our starter and the Rockets wont be looking to pay more than that for a backup PF.

If a team were to offer more than $3.5 Mill a year for Carl Landry, I would expect them to instantly become a partner for a sign and trade.

e.g.

Milwaukee decides to offer the full MLE to Carl Landry.

We match the offer and call Del Harris to discuss a sign and trade opportunity... something like Steve Francis, Luther Head and Carl Landry for Desmond Mason and Charlie Villanueva.

Still, somehow I find it difficult to believe anyone would offer the full MLE for Landry, which means we have a high likelihood of retaining Landry at the value we are hoping for. If a team offers more than our $3.5 Mill limit and less than the full MLE, we would have some change left over to sign a free agent such as Jannero Pargo or Brent Barry.

PG: Rafer Alston | Bobby Jackson | Aaron Brooks
SG: Tracy McGrady | Brent Barry
SF: Shane Battier | Desmond Mason | Steve Novak | Donte Greene
PF: Luis Scola | Charlie Villanueva | Chuck Hayes
CN: Yao Ming | Joey Dorsey | Dikembe Mutombo

 

I think a deal lasting til 2010 wouldnt be a bad idea

 

Do you know here is a forum, a place where people discuss things?

If you say the rockets are over the salary cap, just give the proof.

Do you have a idea how rude you are?!

 

Landry is a humble guy and has stated many times he wants to stay, so i will take his word for what it's worth. Then again, many players have expressed their love / loyalty to a team and went for the money instead...

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

I agree that some people have said, just make Landry a fair offer.

If the rockets are over the salary cap, we have to sign Landry by using MLE. I think it means the rockets cannot do a sign and trade deal. We have to keep him if we sign him.

Just make him a fair offer! If Landry likes the rockets and thinks here is a good place for him to develop, he will accept the offer.

 

I agree completely. This has been a dead debate all summer long, but somehow fuel keeps getting added to the fire by people with a tenuous grasp for salary structures in the NBA.

Landry isn't going anywhere, and he's signing for around 3M.

End of Thread.

 

That and an exciting Bi-Annual Exception signing. Signing (or matching an offer for) Landry to the full MLE only hurts Les's pocketbook. I just don't expect much of MLE to be left where vet's minimum and biannual exception can't be used instead.

 

he said he wanted to be a houston rocket, we said we want him here...hopefully money isnt too much of an issue and he will sign with us for the love of the city and the team, rather than the MLE

 

It's always good to have some space below LT otherwise if the Rockets need to make a trade team not clicking or injuries they're less likely to do so.

I gues the Rockets could still "shop" Landry. Try to find out which teams are willing to offer Landry the MLE then make a deal not to match if that other team goes ahead with a trade the Rockets want.

Eg. Bucks offer Landry full MLE
Rockets agree to not to match if they:
Trade Desmond Mason + Ramon Sessions for Bobby Jackson + Steve Novak

 

The Salary cap is around 55 mil the starting 5 od Yao Tmac Scola Rafer and Battier make up about 48 that leave 7 Mil for the other 12 players. Yes I said 12. Reed and Butler still count. Add BJackson at 6 mil and that almost puts us overright there.

 

Thanks for your information.

 

Is the salary cap gonna go up to $59 million this summer?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=FreeAgents-080629

The news doesn't get much better for the free-agent class of 2008. Given our current projections, only three teams -- the Memphis Grizzlies, the Philadelphia 76ers and the Los Angeles Clippers -- will have enough money under the cap to spend on them, assuming a $59 million salary cap this summer.

 

That's true a team does not have to be under the cap but chances are those over cap will not try to screw us up. It's those below the cap that will aggressively look for FA or RFA I am worried about.

 

The teams that can screw with us are the ones clearing cap space. like the Nets.

 

Does anyone have a list or know of where a list might be that lists the 2007 MLE contracts? It would be interesting to see what calibre of player signed for the MLE last year. My guess is that the Rockets will end up paying close to the MLE on Landry.

 

all those exceptions are not tied to the cap rule. when you're over the cap, you still can't sign a player unless using those exceptions, such as BLE.

there is another line, higher than the salary cap (i don't know exactly what it is). it is the luxury tax limit. if the total salary (including all those exception based player salaries) is over the luxury tax limit, the owner will pay dollar to dollar tax on whatever amount of money over the limit. most owners don't want to pay the luxury tax.

i believe rox salary is already over the cap. how much below the luxury tax limit dictates what we can spend on restricted/unrestricted free agent by using those exceptions coz rox owner doesn't want to pay tax. it was the reason morey did a couple of trades to get the salary under the luxury tax limit in the last season.

 

Chad Frod just did a write up that might be helpful. It's anyone's best guess who will get the whole MLE...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=FreeAgents-080629

 

I'm thinking the exact opposite. The rockets might actually get a player of value for expiring contracts. Marcus Williams would give the Rockets another option at PG if the rockets took someone not in NJ's plans.