[Chron.com] Rockets Forward Parsons Worth on Upswing

Parsons is a good all around above average player. At his current salary, he is a steal. But once he is making say $8 mil/year where he will be compared to others around to league at that price range, he will look less impressive. For this team, a hard nose defender and dead eye 3 shooter is a better "fit."

 

I kinda feel the same. I think he's trying to rack up the points at the expense of his defense, which is what we REALLY need from him.

 

too inconsistent

not worth more than 9 mill a year

 

2nd best player? You serious? He's 4th or 5th behind Lin and Omer. Oh wait, he's a starter and Lin is coming off the bench, I'm sorry, parsons is absolutely better than Lin. My bad. He's behind harden, Dwight and Omer.

Parsons, pretty white boy is like the quarterbacks of most nfl teams. Born leader. Fits the stereotype real nicely.

Any team with parsons as your second best player will be in trouble. Most of his shots are assisted. He is not able to create for himself. Prefers the offensive end and plays good defense only when he wants to. Parsons is due for a big raise, but don't go nuts and overpay him.

 

I've been a fan of Parsons since his rookie year. His defense has regressed to the point where it's pretty terrible right now. Part of it is that our whole team defense sucks and no one really knows what they're doing, but I also think he's just trying too hard on offense that he doesn't give much effort defensively. He's a great jack of all trades who hustles and is all over the place. He runs ahead for an outlet pass because he knows Lin and Harden will usually find him and he'll get an easy layup or dunk. Good role player that all teams need but I don't see him becoming a star.

I'd love to keep him, but I think some team is going to overpay for him.

 

Is Parson better than Josh Smith when Smith got his 2nd contract? I don't think so. Smith 2nd contract was 5 yrs $57 mil? That's around $11 mil per. I think Parsons should be around $9 mil per or so.

 

I'm getting alot of flack for this post, and I want people to go back and re-read the fact that I said "Last Year". And yes he was the 2nd best all-around player on the team consistently last year even though he wasn't necessarily irreplaceable. Asik was most likely the 2nd most important player because his defense & rebounding were irreplaceable.

But that's not the point, and it truly shows what fans like this just want to pay attention to. There is not merit to Parsons being 2nd or 3rd, or 15th last year. The point is he can be your 2nd best player and he can also be your 4th or 5th best. That's the beauty of having a guy like Parsons on your team that doesn't NEED hierarchy to be a successful NBA player. He's just there to win games. He's a very good player who can fit in just about anywhere on your roster, and he's proven that the past 2 seasons.

And please don't bring this stupid dumb A#$ Lin debate into it. These are the type of posters who care so heavily about rank and accolades that its all they want to focus on here.

 

Again....I'm referring to LAST YEAR. Nobody knows for a fact whether or not this team is even a playoff team yet anyways despite what it looks like on paper.

 

Stop throwing smoke screens with all that second best player, second best all around player, or second most important player. All you are doing is purposely confusing people who read you post. Latter two terms are subjective to one's interpretation.

The player who produced the second most wins on this team was the second best player. That's it! And it certainly wasn't Parsons.

 

Damn.

 

Not sure why him being White and good looking has anything to do any of the points I made.

As for Budinger... why are we comparing the two... cause they are both White... IMO they are much different players.

Fact is, Budinger was clearly beat out by Parsons in his rookie season. Mostly because of his defense shown early in the season & training camp and his ability to make the other players around him better with winning hustle plays.

Can Bud score more than Parsons.... maybe, but its close... However he needs a system that caters to his skillset much more than Parsons does. Can Budinger play defense anywhere close to what Parsons is capable of... no(even though Parsons' defense has dropped off, he's still capable). Has Budinger ever shown himself to be a leader and a player that high target free agents want to play with???... maybe... but I haven't seen much of it.

Look... nobody here is suggesting the Rockets give Parsons a max contract or anything. He's going to get paid what he's worth on the market. Are you arguing that the Rockets shouldn't keep him cause you dont like him, or are you arguing that they shouldn't overpay to keep him if a team is crazy enough to max him out or come close cause that's a whole other argument?

Seems to me the only point you have here is tell people you dont think much of him.

 

What you are saying is Parsons is a good role player and I agree. Each player plays differently based on their positions, so which player is more important is the one that counts. Based on Morey, Harden is #1, Omer #2, Lin+Parsons tied for 3rd.

Just to gauge who is more important, take this trade scenario. a) Will you trade Omer for Shumpert straight up? b) Will you trade parsons for Shumpert straight up?

a) CFs will laugh at this.
b) Very interesting.

I believe shane battier during the tmac/yao era is much better than parsons (better defense and spot up shooting.) He made an average of $6mil/year. Even if you consider parsons to be better, how much more are you willing to pay Parsons? If its $6mil for bats and $8mil for parsons, its bats all the time.

 

Fair enough. Should have read 2nd best offensive player, or given much more finite details.

HOWEVER... that's not the point. If you think the ranking is what was important from what I was getting at, you aren't reading into what I was saying... he CAN BE #2 through #15 and he makes your team better in whatever role he's play. Thats the point.

 

What I'm saying AGAIN is that Parsons ranking on the team DOESN'T matter. He can be #2 through #15 and contribute. He's good enough and well rounded enough to fit in where you need.

And no I wouldn't trade either for Shumpert straight up.

And I dont know how much Parsons will get in free agency. Its all relative to the supply and demand which is NOT predetermined by prior years. Its always a year to year basis. That's why Nene got overpaid in one free agent class where the next one he would have only netted half that much. Its all about timing, need, and Supply of similar or better players.

To determine what Parson's is worth first we'd have to know which year he's going to be a free agent in, whether he's restricted or not, and then know EXACTLY who is going to be in the class with him, and then analyze teams with cap space, their needs, and how much cap space they have to throw money at free agents. The best anyone can give you RIGHT NOW about Parsons' valuation is a guess.

 

A lot of players can be the 2nd best player for a team on any given night. That doesn't mean he is the second best player on a team. Parsons is probably 5th best Rocket right now. Sad part is that he's been third best among starters that fit with starters.

 

I think his Value is $6/year. Out of loyalty, Rockets adds $2mil/year. Anymore than that, rockets needs to take a good at look what else they can get on the market either now or at a later time.

Market will dictate price or you can wait until the market to comes to you. Morey, is in the latter camp.

 

I'd let him walk for more than 10 million, wing players are everywhere and Chandlers best asset is that he is a cheap starter that won't lose the game for you... So paying him big bucks takes away why he is good.

 

Why would they add anything more than they need to... loyalty??... Loyalty is paying market value. Usually its the other way around with players taking less to stay with their current team.

You can make guesses all we want but it doesn't change the fact that we dont even know which year he will hit free agency in, whether he's restricted or not, and what players are also going to be in his free agency class. He could command 3 mil a year, and he could command 13 mil a year.

Who knows. There is no point in guessing right now, and maybe judgements of whether or not Morey should keep or trade Chandler RIGHT NOW because of those rash guesses.

 

Let him try first, increased number of playmakers can make the offense less predictable. But he still needs to run during fast breaks and cut more because he is the best cutter on Rockets.

 

Agreed.