Chron: Bosh will be a key piece of Rockets' puzzle

Salaries dont match. Battier and Jefferies would have to be included on top of Hill and the 2 1st rounders.

 

I understand that. What I mean is the meat of the trade.

Hill+ 2 picks + a taking back a bad contract of Jeffries is what it gets done with Tmac's expireing contrct.

and now people think Hill + 2 picks without taking a back contract can land us Bosh.

So Tmac's expireing contract > Bosh. LOL.

 

It absolutely is not. Tmac had been an MVP candidate for multiple seasons and had taken his very untalented team to the playoffs a few times. Bosh is nowhere near that level. Tmac was a legit #1 option, Bosh is not.

 

$20 million? Where in the world are you getting that figure? Bosh's deal would likely start at about $14 mil, and Hill will make a little over $2 mil. So you'd only need about $10 mil more to get within the 15% range of Bosh - basically, Jared Jeffries and a lower-salaried role player or two. Or Battier, who could have actual value to them.

Saving cash isn't worth it for the Raptors - it's a major problem to get marquee free agents to sign in Toronto, and they've admitted it. It's about developing young players and finding prospects. So, would they take back one year of a Jeffries or Battier at $7 mil in exchange for Hill, Budinger or Taylor, and a couple of first round picks - at least one from the freakin' New York Knicks? You better believe it. If you look at their forums, they're clamoring for just that type of deal.

 

Did Tmac just came off a 19 or 17 game losing streak and called it quit? Didn't Tmac already labled as a loser at that time because he never could go to 2nd round?

I'm not saying those critics were fair to Tmac, but his value is just as high as Bosh now, who also is considered as a top 10 player. They are very much cmparable at the time they wanted to leave their team.

 

I dont understand your thinking? Bosh is a free agent. He can do whatever the heck he wants. He can screw Toronto over or help them out. If he helps Toronto out he ll make 30 mil more. Its not an insult to him for what Toronto receives for him as long as he get to play for the team he wants to. Im sure he doesnt give a rats ass what happens in Toronto after he leaves.

The raptors should be happy with Hill and first rounders instead of letting him go for nothing.

 

Just wanted to add a little to yours. Orlando had enough cap space to sign Lewis outright. He just got a longer deal by doing the sign and trade. Bosh is in the same situation. There are teams out there that can sign him outright but he can help Toronto out by letting them get something back for him. Bosh just has to convince Toronto that he will leave to one of those teams but he would like to see them get a little bit back so he could say to trade with Houston.

 

Absolutely no way, tmac was considered a top 5 player, possibly #2 only behind Kobe at that point. Chris Bosh is not a top 10 player. Tmac was a guy a franchise could be built around, Chris Bosh is a #2 player. You are overrating bosh more than anyone I have ever seen. If the guy was as good as you say he is, he would have more than 1 winning season for his entire career.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Morey gets another team involved. We may endup getting Bosh and Tiago Splitter for Hill and draft picks.

 

I really doubt the spurs are gonna hand over another elite euroleaguer to the Rockets after the Scola fiasco

 

Bosh is NOT a free agent until he opts out his contract. And he will NOT do that because that means he'll make 30 million less.

Is it an insult of not, I was just saying it wouldn't suprise me if he is offened by that. I'm NOT saying he WILL do that.. Don't look too much into that.

Raptors should be happy with Hill and 2 1st rounders? Hell NO. Why should they be happy when they can get much better deal?

NY wanted Bosh all along, but they used Hill + 2 1st rounders to get Tmac's expiring contract instead of Bosh, what did that tell you?

It tells you Bosh is not THAT CHEAP. There will be teams bidding for Bosh's servce, Houston will only be one of those, Toronto will not get nothing in return for Bosh. They'll get a lot, maybe a lot more than some of the fans think.

 

Bosh is a #2 guy? There are 30 teams, tell me 30 players you want to build the team around over Bosh please?

Tmac in 2002 wasn't #2, he was behind Kobe,Duncan, Shaq and KG as # 5 guy but being labeled a loser already. Bosh is considered to be a top 10 guy without that much negative image.

They are comparable.

 

The 2 1st rounders do not count as salaries unless its a situation like Donte Greene where we drafted him and signed him to a deal and then traded him. The only salaries that count are the players that are currently under contract. Not future draft picks. They are just a throw in bonus. Also the only rookie who is going to make 20mil during his entire rookie contract is the 1st overall pick.

 

There are about 10 guys in the NBA a contender can be built around, Bosh is not one of those guys. I hope you realize Shaq was traded to miami the same time tmac was traded to houston and instantly became a second option, no one considered shaq better than tmac at that point. Kobe, Duncan, and tmac were the best players in the NBA. Like always KG was overrated.

Is Bosh not labeled a loser? At least tmac made the playoffs and lost there. Bosh is a career loser

 

Bosh has a big ego and will be insulted if he is traded for scraps. Raptors have to take back 17mil+ in salary. Bosh will lose $30 million suiting up for another team. T-Mac wasn't an all-star when he came to the Rockets.

Wow, I give up.

 

In Shaq's first year, Miami was still playing inside-out. And I hope you realize Lakers got Odom and Butler , a 1st rounder and another servicable man Grant in return for Shaq. Odom was the best player on Heat for that year.

I also hope you remember what it took to get Tmac after he speciclly said he'd want to be a Rocket: 3 starters including an all-star, while taking back JHO's bad contract.

Now all of a sudden Bosh is worth: a bench player + two 1st round picks?

Bosh is considered by many people as a top 10 player to build around. It is you who are seriously underrating Bosh.

 

You should, or at least read carefully.

Bosh will lost $30 mil if he opts out. In he doesn't Torronto has the leverage.

Tmac wan't an all-star when he left Toronto.