CHRON: Bonzi happy to be playing with Rockets, Adelman

Wrong, he faced termination because he lost. If he won game 7 I am sure that he'd still be around. I liked him as coach but he needed to go because he couldn't win.

Just watch, in 3-4 years or so when Adelman is fired we'll hear the propaganda going in the other direction again. That's all this stuff is; fluff and propaganda. I wonder why Blinebury didn't bother to ask McGrady or Yao about why they're glad JVG is gone.

 

Yeah and DennisCD was right once again. First I thought he was Feigen; could he be Nelson Luis?

 

With all that has surfaced about how JVG and Les didn't see eye to eye I have a feeling even if we advanced beyond the 1st round Jeff would've been canned. The sticking point was he would not let go some of the control he had over the team and Les came to him and asked him to ease up a bit and he refused. The stories we hear about him not letting CD help Yao is just outrageous to me. How do you let a guy go to those extremes even if he is your head coach? If that's not a control freak I don't know what one is.

 

5) Head-like players, having no PG ability but stuck in PG body, having trouble dribbling the ball pass half-court under pressure

that's how type4 player survive because of type5

 

why because what he says is true?

 

JVG would have quit anyway. I knew he was done before the series with the Jazz even started. He was given an extension and refused to sign it. He and the owner were at odds. I think JVG did a good job of manipulating the media and get them on his side. It was a PR mess for the Rockets. Les got what he deserved, without a doubt. I'd take Cuban over him any day of the week, just like I'd take Kobe, Lebron, or Wade over TMac any minute of a game.

 

How is it true? How about actually asking a player who played for JVG, like Battier, or TMac, or Barry, or Sura? Bonzi didn't do jack ****. He hates every coach he plays for, except Adelman. People like that don't go anywhere in life, except jail.

 

SF.
CAT.
Deke.
Yao.
VSpan.
Bonzi.
Battier.


and Les.

 

jvg is a kind of coach demanding a lot from his players. he has own style that defense wins champs. any mistake a player makes on defense will get yanked out of line. on offense side, he relies on half court and center-centralized offense, in-out and getting open 3s. he doesn't mix in-out offense with guard penetration offense very well, like pop did to spurs. the reason could be he didn't have anyone except tmac. however, if you look at his ny team. he used more in-out offense than anything else. he was very successful during last regular season due to our stingy defense and good 3pt shooting which was key of his offense. unfortunately, 3pt shooting betrayed him.

ra is kind of coach who ask his players play smart, giving his players freedom to make a best decision. since regular season is a long process, any mistake can be averaged out. however, in playoff, no mistake at all. could his freedom will come back to bite him in playoff? let's see. remember, playoff means every team in playoff will play a level higher than regular season, including defense. would his motion offense with CURRENT ROSTER survive?

I still believe defense will win champs most time. One good thing I believe will help rox is: ra likes to design a system best fit his players and likes to make adjustment. since we have yao, we can play in-out w/o problem if the opponent, like spurs, is well known for defense.

 

How Rude!

 

It's probably fake. Yao never talks like that to the American media, why would he to the Chinese media?

Agreed. The guy came in fat and out of shape and in a bad frame of mind. What JVG did to him was almost irrelevant because he was not ready to play even if Adelman was here last year. Completely unprofessional.

 

Show me anywhere where cat, deke, yao, battier say they hate JVG, he's the worst coach ever, etc.

Cat after a game vs Clippers in March - "They are extremely well coached, and hard to score against. They will be a tough team to face in the playoffs."

Francis - "Even if Jeff Van Gundy were coach, I would have come back to Houston. I was caught off guard when he took over for Rudy, but that's just because Rudy gave us so much freedom to do whatever we wanted. I haven't tasted the playoffs since, and I know Houston is the perfect opportunity to win, and so I'll do whatever it takes to win." - SR610

Deke - "Jeff has revived my career. I tell the young guys they are so fortunate to have someone like Jeff teaching them."

Yao - "Thibs and Jeff have made me better player in the low post."

And my favorite Battier quote on JVG - "He's always a teacher. Any time he can find a moral of the story, it's good day for him. He's definitely a teacher. If he were a minister, he would be a master parable teller. I really enjoy playing for Jeff. He's one of the best coaches in this league. I hope whatever he does brings him happiness."

 

Notice how Adelman talks about trading for defensive players. The style of game depends on how you construct the roster. I am pretty sure a large part of the lack of offensive talent in the past few years has a lot to do with the coach's preference.

Every coach wants to have players who are great on both ends. But if you have to choose between trading offense for defense and trading defense for offense, guess what JVG prefers.

 

Why are you so sure that Adelman will be fired in 3-4 years? His tenures with both Portland and Sacramento were both considerably longer than that.

 

I think it'll happen. It won't be his fault. But our owner is an *******. And Adelman's not going to win anything with TMac. TMac gets coaches fired. I don't know of any other superstar who's gone through as many coaches at his age. Rockets made a mistake in not putting together a package with TMac for KG or Kobe.

 

I am not sure one way or the other whether this was fake. But it wouldn't be surprising if Yao did talk more candidly to the Chinese than the American media. He was clear that when he first came. He might have changed since then.

And I think this board in general gives too little credits to the Chinese media.

 

So it's TMac's fault JVG got fired? LOL.

BTW, Rudy had a long tenure under Les too. So even if the owner was what you said he is, it still doesn't follow that Adelman will surely get fired in 3-4 years.

 

Snyder could've gotten some of Battier's minute's or even Rafer's...and move T-Mac up to SF or let T-Mac take over ball-handling duties....or he could've gotten a few minutes while Mac was on the bench.

Battier and Alston in fact got around 40 mpg in almost every game of the series (even more than T-Mac). Their time could've been cut slightly....they're not exactly world beaters. And since the team had difficulty scoring....you can play with more than 8 guys in the series....just not a single game. Each game could've been limited to 8 or 9 guys, but the players at the end of rotations could've gotten more minutes and even reducing roles of other players in the top 8 part of the rotation. Esp. after that Game 3 debacle...and how we were struggling in the series to begin with....most coaches would made some kinda of adjustment within rotations and the strategy. That was probably JVG biggest problem....he didn't want to change his gameplan...results...we lose the series in the 7 games.

Let's be honest they only reason we stayed in the series so long was Yao and T-Mac, everyone was pretty much non-factor offensively and later defensively. And it showed that the Jazz had more talented team than we did and we were outcoached.....Sloan seemed like his strategy changed every game...."it was either make outside jumpers" - "make Yao come away from basket" - "neutralize Yao and T-Mac by changing defenders so many plays" "wear the Rockets out by running and gunning" "Let Deron get to basket, since no one in the back court could stop him."

With us, it was just let T-Mac and Yao do their thing, and hope other shooters hit their shots...it worked, but it didn't. Because, our (active)players just weren't that great offensively. It's like football coach keeps trying the run the ball when the defense keeps shutting down run and are quickly pulling away in the game.

 

Rudy had Hakeem and Clyde and Barkley, 3 of the greatest ever. Once they deteriorated and left, Rudy was gone in less than 3 years.

Yao and TMac aren't leaders. JVG was stuck with them. And now Adelman is too.

 

You're not going to beat Utah by forcing TMac to guard Deron Williams. We had no backup pg. That's not JVG's fault. Alston was forced to handle the duties. We absolutely needed Battier's shooting and defense. He was our best shooter and hit some huge shots for us in the playoffs. You can't play Snyder or TMac at the 1 because of defensive purposes vs Deron. Jeff was very limited in what rotation we could use. If we had Mike James, then we easily win that series in 6.